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Posted by: kane]deth[ Nov 6 2008, 03:59 PM
Now that the demo's out (for pre-orders) I think we should have a topic.

Will update later with impressions.

Add my steam and we'll play campaign.

Edit: Okay I played through the only stage in the demo as Bill on normal (I'm guessing there's no difference)

Basically, you go through the game killing zombies. Controls were fine, same as every other valve game, except your hit is mapped on your right click.

I found shotguns to be fun and cheap, especially the auto shotgun.

So if anybody has this game please add me sad.gif

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 6 2008, 04:33 PM
I want to play with you, badly.

But I need to figure out how I use Fedora first

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 7 2008, 07:09 AM
ALRIGHT I AM TOTALLY READY TO PLAY ANYONE WHO HAS IT ADD ME ON STEAM OR GET ON THE MFGG L4D GROUP :0

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 7 2008, 10:02 AM
user posted image

Also I managed to beat the demo on advanced online :] almost did expert, but we just couldn't beat The Rescue with all the witches and tanks!

Witches are totally creepy. We once sneaked past one but then a boomer came and she was all "lol wut?" and she killed everyone.

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 7 2008, 11:09 AM
Haha, Orange Box juice.

Posted by: Adamgamer Nov 7 2008, 03:24 PM
Urge to preorder, rising....

Posted by: Liko Nov 7 2008, 03:51 PM
*Will get L4D after first price drop*

Gah, I have this, Mirror's Edge, and Starcraft 2 to look forward to.

Posted by: Hackett Nov 7 2008, 06:01 PM
Good games tonight guys. Still I've talked with many people at none of them have had so many tanks before, at least not 11 in a game. Here's hoping it's a bug or something.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 7 2008, 06:48 PM
Yeah it was cool to actually play with people you knew.

also wasn't it only Kane and I who survived? You were all Tank feeding :]

Posted by: Hackett Nov 7 2008, 06:54 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 7 2008, 11:48 PM)
Yeah it was cool to actually play with people you knew.

also wasn't it only Kane and I who survived? You were all Tank feeding :]

Yeah, me and Yaro (the other guy) were preoccupying the tanks with our bludgeoned, beaten bodies while you guys slipped up to the safehouse.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 7 2008, 06:57 PM
so I'm guessing the game lists the huge monsters after difficulty, and advanced must be the tank fest. I guess that makes expert the witch fest? Because I've only seen those on expert.

Then again, the game could've calculated how awesome we were and be all "these guys needs to be raped with tanks in order to be stopped"

Posted by: kane]deth[ Nov 7 2008, 10:06 PM
If mecha could host a server with sv_cheats on again, there's a console code to play as the infected.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 8 2008, 06:51 AM
haha oh wow really?

Totally up for it!

Posted by: Hackett Nov 8 2008, 07:27 AM
QUOTE (kane]deth[ @ Nov 8 2008, 03:06 AM)
If mecha could host a server with sv_cheats on again, there's a console code to play as the infected.

That'd be cool, but I'd hate to have somebody noclipping like last time at setting off about 8 spawn triggers.

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 8 2008, 12:01 PM
http://kotaku.com/5080118/left-4-dead-demo-hacked-to-allow-extra-fun-times

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 8 2008, 12:38 PM
brb playing L4D on goldrush

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 8 2008, 02:35 PM
Okay so I just played as the infected, and it's actually really hard :V

I think they nerf the multiplayer infected or something

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 8 2008, 02:54 PM
bought l4d for a bro, still unsure if i want it or not

Posted by: Robbydude Nov 8 2008, 04:35 PM
fallout 3 with source engine

Posted by: Rob Nov 8 2008, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (Robbydude @ Nov 8 2008, 01:35 PM)
fallout 3 with source engine

>fallout 3 with source engine

It doesn't have RPG elements

2/10

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 8 2008, 06:05 PM
QUOTE (Robbydude @ Nov 8 2008, 10:35 PM)
fallout 3 with source engine

what

I suggest you try it before you comment it

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 9 2008, 08:04 PM
God I love this game. I've managed to beat Expert a couple of times. If anyone wants to play, just aim me or PM or whatever.

Posted by: ChaosEmerl Nov 9 2008, 08:05 PM
This game is awesome. My SteamID is TedJustice if anyone wants to play with me.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 9 2008, 08:10 PM
I added you. You should get an invite from kennyloo69

Posted by: FuzzMaster Nov 11 2008, 01:10 AM
It's fun as fuck but you need to play on expert or else it's ridiculously easy. I am surprised at the graphics... I did not expect so much from the Source engine. Very impressive.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 01:12 AM
I think I'm gonna stick to Advanced, though. Even though I beat Expert with Hackett and Kane, it's annoying to replay a level over and over again because there's so goddamn many tanks.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 11:07 AM
!!!!!!!!

The Left 4 Dead demo becomes available for non-preorders today!

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 11 2008, 11:40 AM
My friend is trying to download it but can't :(

mechabowser hook me up with your steam ID. or invite me: kennyloo69.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Nov 11 2008, 05:40 PM)
My friend is trying to download it but can't sad.gif

Neo's having the same problem.

also I already sent an invitation yesterday

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 11 2008, 11:54 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 11 2008, 09:41 AM)
Neo's having the same problem.

also I already sent an invitation yesterday

I think people are having trouble sending me invites. Tell me your steam ID and I'll add you.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 11:55 AM
QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Nov 11 2008, 05:54 PM)
I think people are having trouble sending me invites. Tell me your steam ID and I'll add you.

mechallamabutler

Posted by: ChaosEmerl Nov 11 2008, 03:32 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 11 2008, 11:07 AM)
!!!!!!!!

The Left 4 Dead demo becomes available for non-preorders today!

It already was, through a Gamestop website exploit.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 11 2008, 04:00 PM
So anyone up for a game?

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 04:01 PM
Sure. Count me in!

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 11 2008, 04:02 PM
Alright that's 2. Who else can we get?

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 11 2008, 04:05 PM
I am downroading.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 11 2008, 04:09 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 11 2008, 02:05 PM)
I am downroading.

But how long will it take?

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 11 2008, 04:14 PM
QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Nov 11 2008, 01:09 PM)
But how long will it take?

It's at 12% at 300 KB/s :x

25%!

40%

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 11 2008, 04:50 PM
DLing too, but really slowly.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 04:55 PM
Man that was great. Except when BubbleMan went afk constantly and killed himself.


Also BubbleMan: "why don't we just throw a bomb at it"
see how it instant killed you?

there you go

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 11 2008, 04:56 PM
Okay downloading the demo like right now

...at 136 kb/s. >:/

Posted by: Hackett Nov 11 2008, 04:57 PM
Just hold right click in a corner?

Posted by: Elyk Nov 11 2008, 04:58 PM
So this game is pretty fun unless you end up with teammates that constantly shoot you and then run and hide when you get rushed.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 05:02 PM
QUOTE (Hackett @ Nov 11 2008, 10:57 PM)
Just hold right click in a corner?

you mean left click, right?

we're talking about killing witches here, right?

Posted by: Hackett Nov 11 2008, 05:11 PM
I'm more talking about how to survive clouds of infected sans boss zombies, as long as you're right in the corner.

Witch strategy for me is send someone in first and then hunting rifle spam.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 11 2008, 05:27 PM
Ok done.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 11 2008, 05:30 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 11 2008, 02:55 PM)
Man that was great. Except when BubbleMan went afk constantly and killed himself.


Also BubbleMan: "why don't we just throw a bomb at it"
see how it instant killed you?

there you go

What when did I say that?

Also yeah, my nephew is here and I had to keep putting the Wii for him.

Posted by: shroomguy Nov 11 2008, 05:31 PM
I just got the demo.

wow

If my comp didn't lag so bad I would love this even more.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Nov 11 2008, 11:30 PM)
What when did I say that?

might have been Kane!

Posted by: Hippopolun Nov 11 2008, 06:10 PM
I'm up for a game if somebody can host. I'm available at 8:00pm EST.
Steam ID is ApocHedgie1

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 11 2008, 06:19 PM
PC version was taking forever to download so instead I just got the XBox version. The game is real fun, beat advanced but I haven't tried expert yet. I can't imagine the game lasting me THAT long though.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 06:22 PM
Online and with friends is the best part though

Posted by: Elyk Nov 11 2008, 06:24 PM
QUOTE (OmegaK @ Nov 11 2008, 07:19 PM)
PC version was taking forever to download so instead I just got the XBox version. The game is real fun, beat advanced but I haven't tried expert yet. I can't imagine the game lasting me THAT long though.

The zombies are different every time you play. I'm still on edge after running through the demo about ten times.

Also what's the command to play as a zombie boss?

Posted by: kane]deth[ Nov 11 2008, 07:48 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 11 2008, 06:41 PM)
might have been Kane!

definitely me.

And the computer was the one who shot her anyways!

@elyk: they patched it with an update

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 11 2008, 07:53 PM
So uh... 4 player expert tears you a new one.

Posted by: Elyk Nov 11 2008, 08:14 PM
QUOTE (kane]deth[ @ Nov 11 2008, 08:48 PM)
@elyk: they patched it with an update

that sucks

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 11 2008, 08:20 PM
was fun while it lasted, though!

I went all
"hey dude"
"yeah?"
"WHASSUP *Hunter jump*"

on my brother it was awesome

Posted by: Adamgamer Nov 11 2008, 08:45 PM
Downloading now, will be available to play tomorrow around 8PM EST

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 12 2008, 01:44 AM
Okay.

I just decided to download the demo.

Pretty similar to the build they had at Quakecon 07, actually. A few new things and refined graphics (I was amazed at how well the Source engine could handle this) as well as fewer safe spots. They added more variety to the zombies and more weapons than just a plain old shotgun. The boss zombies are also a nice touch. All around very nice and...
user posted image
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

witches are a bitch though, haha

This easily makes up for the piece of shit that TF2 turned out to be in the long run, the constantly changing zombie layouts and everything make it exciting to play over and over. I think I'll start hosting some quick games every night now until the game releases.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 12 2008, 02:04 AM
tank fights usually don't end well for me :[

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 12 2008, 02:05 AM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 12 2008, 01:04 AM)
tank fights usually don't end well for me :[

it didn't help that i was using a rather crappy weapon (just grabbed it to test it out after the first safe zone on my initial playthrough) when that thing fucking RAMMED ME out of nowhere

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 12 2008, 02:10 AM
The way I see it is

Tanks are infected body builders
Boomers are infected fat dudes
Hunters are infected gangstas
Smokers are infected... smokers
Witches are infect anorexic emo prostitues*

*on their goddamn period

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 12 2008, 02:16 AM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 12 2008, 01:10 AM)
Witches are infect anorexic emo prostitues*

*on their goddamn period

You startled the witch!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 12 2008, 02:20 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 11 2008, 11:16 PM)
You startled the witch!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU--

I don't quite understand what startles them. She looked at me before and I was fine. Another time I walked by and she was startled.

One time though she looked at me and I panicked so I shot lead at her. My bad.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 12 2008, 02:21 AM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 12 2008, 01:20 AM)
I don't quite understand what startles them. She looked at me before and I was fine. Another time I walked by and she was startled.

One time though she looked at me and I panicked so I shot lead at her. My bad.

i was shooting zombies that were coming at me while one was nearby and it startled her

so i think its gunshots or walking fast by one

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 12 2008, 02:23 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 11 2008, 11:21 PM)
i was shooting zombies that were coming at me while one was nearby and it startled her

so i think its gunshots or walking fast by one

I guess that explains why shift is slow down.

and whoever had 11 tanks I can't believe that. The most I've ever seen is 1.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 12 2008, 02:48 AM
QUOTE
Witches become hostile when you shoot them, shine light at them, or fire weapons around them. They kill with one hit.

Gunshots and flashlights, then.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 12 2008, 02:55 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 11 2008, 11:48 PM)
Gunshots and flashlights, then.

Can you like, get rescued at all?

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 12 2008, 03:02 AM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 12 2008, 01:55 AM)
Can you like, get rescued at all?

yes

Posted by: Elyk Nov 12 2008, 03:01 PM
how do you kill them without startling them

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 12 2008, 03:06 PM
I was playing with some friends earlier and we managed to get a tank back to the safe room. It broke through the door and killed us all. :[

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 12 2008, 03:11 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 12 2008, 08:48 AM)
QUOTE
Witches become hostile when you shoot them, shine light at them, or fire weapons around them. They kill with one hit.

And if you run near one, or if you cough near one (damn Smokers!)

Posted by: ChaosEmerl Nov 12 2008, 03:33 PM
QUOTE (OmegaK @ Nov 12 2008, 03:06 PM)
I was playing with some friends earlier and we managed to get a tank back to the safe room. It broke through the door and killed us all. :[

That's weird, because when I was playing as a tank, it said I couldn't break safe room doors.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 12 2008, 03:53 PM
QUOTE (ChaosEmerl @ Nov 12 2008, 09:33 PM)
That's weird, because when I was playing as a tank, it said I couldn't break safe room doors.

Multiplayer infected are totally nerfed

Posted by: ChaosEmerl Nov 12 2008, 03:58 PM
Also, who else is going to play boomer when the game comes out, and bind a key to automatically kill you, just so you can run in and be a suicide bomb?

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 12 2008, 04:03 PM
Tank is way too overpowered compared to the others

they should allow witches :]

Posted by: Hackett Nov 12 2008, 04:04 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 12 2008, 07:23 AM)
I guess that explains why shift is slow down.

and whoever had 11 tanks I can't believe that. The most I've ever seen is 1.

11 tanks across 3 rounds = spawn values changed. I asked other people who played on it and they had the same problem, so it's a serverside thing.

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 12 2008, 04:04 PM
I want to pre-order this now, but I have no cash. :[
Well the cash I do have is going towards nuts and bolts, and I really want that. So I guess I'll have to wait until christmas.

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 12 2008, 05:02 PM
i got to try a little bit of the demo, but the computer i'm on has a video card that CANNOT PHYSICALLY HANDLE more than ten zombies on screen, so i get a blue screen whenever one of those awesome zombie rushes happen

the little bit i did play was really fun though, i hope this goes on retail so i can buy it

Posted by: Hackett Nov 12 2008, 05:31 PM
QUOTE (LuigiFan @ Nov 12 2008, 10:02 PM)
i got to try a little bit of the demo, but the computer i'm on has a video card that CANNOT PHYSICALLY HANDLE more than ten zombies on screen, so i get a blue screen whenever one of those awesome zombie rushes happen

the little bit i did play was really fun though, i hope this goes on retail so i can buy it

Get a new PC first? it's pointless having a game where you can only enjoy 10% of it.

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 13 2008, 06:07 PM
QUOTE (Hackett @ Nov 12 2008, 05:31 PM)
Get a new PC first? it's pointless having a game where you can only enjoy 10% of it.

no my computer can probably play it with most settings on high beautifully

i'm talking about the computer i'm on at the moment, which... isn't as good

Posted by: Dispenser Nov 13 2008, 07:06 PM
Black screen, I can only hear.

Time to get a new graphics card.

Posted by: Dracon Nov 13 2008, 07:16 PM
Okay. I tried this demo on easy, normal and hard so far and I have to say it's a very good demo. Maybe me and my brother will split the money to get it, but so far I haven't had much difficulty with this game. I was only downed twice in the demo, and on hard (got stuck fighting a hoard and forgot to watch my HP and ignored defending myself when using the mounted chaingun.)

Shotgun is a great all around weapon with enough ammo to get you through a level.
SMG... well I didn't use it that much so I don't have a verdict on it.
Assault rifle seems like a good weapon, though I think I'll run out of ammo for it in the real game.
Auto shotgun looks like the normal one but with +2 shells and no pumping, though I haven't used it much.
Hunting rifle seems kinda cheap, since it has lots of ammo and you can just one-hit kill anything if you can aim decently, though I don't think it'll be good for hoard fighting.

I haven't gotten attacked by a Witch yet, though I was surprised when I managed to sneak up on her and she survived a headshot from my hunting rifle. What does a Witch do when she actually gets you?

I only fought the tank on easy, so no verdict on their difficulty yet.

Smokers are annoying when they catch you by surprise and so are Hunters if they get to jump on you.

Boomers are alright... as long as you don't get surprised by one/they sneak up on you and you kill it and vomit lands on you then... yeah.

I'll probably go on the hardest setting tomorrow.

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 13 2008, 07:50 PM
witches knock you down instantly, I believe.

Posted by: Elyk Nov 13 2008, 07:57 PM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 13 2008, 08:50 PM)
witches knock you down instantly, I believe.

then they proceed to rape you while your teammates may or may not be able to help get it off you

Posted by: Fender Nov 13 2008, 07:57 PM
this gives me such a rush i love it cool2.gif

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 13 2008, 08:02 PM
dracon: play it online.

it becomes significantly harder in advanced/expert

Posted by: Fender Nov 13 2008, 08:06 PM
i haven't tried anything other than expert.
also, i like how everytime you play through, the zombies come from different places, making it seem like a completely different level, just with the same goal in mind.

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 13 2008, 08:07 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 13 2008, 05:57 PM)
then they proceed to rape you while your teammates may or may not be able to help get it off you

right click

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 13 2008, 10:18 PM
should i get the demo y/n

Posted by: Elyk Nov 13 2008, 10:26 PM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 13 2008, 09:07 PM)
right click

but it doesn't help if they're already on you!

Posted by: Fender Nov 13 2008, 10:30 PM
QUOTE (Boxxy @ Nov 13 2008, 10:18 PM)
should i get the demo y/n

yes

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 13 2008, 11:58 PM
QUOTE (Dracon @ Nov 13 2008, 06:16 PM)
I was only downed twice in the demo, and on hard (got stuck fighting a hoard and forgot to watch my HP and ignored defending myself when using the mounted chaingun.)

play expert, expert makes the game so much harder than advanced it's almost too much of a difficulty jump (PLAIN OLD zombies go from doing like 5 or 10 a normal swipe to 20 per swipe)

QUOTE
Shotgun is a great all around weapon with enough ammo to get you through a level.
SMG... well I didn't use it that much so I don't have a verdict on it.
Assault rifle seems like a good weapon, though I think I'll run out of ammo for it in the real game.
Auto shotgun looks like the normal one but with +2 shells and no pumping, though I haven't used it much.
Hunting rifle seems kinda cheap, since it has lots of ammo and you can just one-hit kill anything if you can aim decently, though I don't think it'll be good for hoard fighting.

Auto shotty is practically broken, dude. You obviously didn't use it too much. It fires as fast as you click and does the most damage per clip than any other weapon in the game by over 400 extra damage. Hunting rifle isn't really cheap, you have to crouch or walk slow to get it completely accurate, and shotgun and automatic weapons are better for hoards, yeah.

QUOTE
I haven't gotten attacked by a Witch yet, though I was surprised when I managed to sneak up on her and she survived a headshot from my hunting rifle. What does a Witch do when she actually gets you?

instant rape

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 14 2008, 12:01 AM
I love the SMG and Assault Rifle. Aim at the heads and you can take out a whole damn swarm. It's so fun and quick.

When a witch or tank attack I don't love those guns as much anymore. :[

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 14 2008, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 13 2008, 11:01 PM)
I love the SMG and Assault Rifle. Aim at the heads and you can take out a whole damn swarm. It's so fun and quick.

When a witch or tank attack I don't love those guns as much anymore. :[

dude the M16 can murder tanks

not as fast as the autoshotty can, but it's second best at pure power after the autoshotty

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 14 2008, 01:09 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 13 2008, 09:05 PM)
dude the M16 can murder tanks

not as fast as the autoshotty can, but it's second best at pure power after the autoshotty

I still love being the team SMG and AR user.

On Extrem it feels pretty weak on the tank though. :[

I keep ending up the last one alive and limping awaaaaay

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 14 2008, 01:14 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 14 2008, 05:58 AM)
Auto shotty is practically broken, dude. You obviously didn't use it too much. It fires as fast as you click and does the most damage per clip than any other weapon in the game by over 400 extra damage. Hunting rifle isn't really cheap, you have to crouch or walk slow to get it completely accurate, and shotgun and automatic weapons are better for hoards, yeah.

Thats what I was thinking. When we get to new weapons, I always pick autoshotgun because it can instant-kill any weak boss in a shot, possibly more, while it can take down a tank in like 10.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 14 2008, 01:21 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 14 2008, 12:14 AM)
while it can take down a tank in like 10.

tanks have 8000 hp

a full autoshotty clip does about 2500.

basically all 4 people pelting a tank with constant autoshotgun rounds can take it out near instantly

QUOTE
I still love being the team SMG and AR user.

why did you say "i still love" when i complimented the M16 (AR)

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 14 2008, 01:23 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 14 2008, 07:21 AM)
tanks have 8000 hp

a full autoshotty clip does about 2500.

basically all 4 people pelting a tank with constant autoshotgun rounds can take it out near instantly

Uh, I've tried shooting at a tank more than 4 times with an autoshotgun and it didn't die. Are you basing this from the multiplayer stats? Because infected are heavily nerfed in that :V

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 14 2008, 01:25 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 14 2008, 12:23 AM)
Uh, I've tried shooting at a tank more than 4 times with an autoshotgun and it didn't die.

well of fucking course 4 shots from an autoshotty won't kill it... you need 4 complete sets of 10 shots

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 14 2008, 01:27 AM
oh wait I misunderstood the full clip thing as a single shot

my bad

Posted by: LeonardoDabooski Nov 14 2008, 02:34 AM
Me and my friends played the demo on co-op last night, I'm loving it so far.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 14 2008, 02:41 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 13 2008, 10:21 PM)

why did you say "i still love" when i complimented the M16 (AR)

I was expressing I still love to.

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 14 2008, 02:45 AM
I can't imagine how difficult the game will be on other levels. I mean, this was the first level and its still pretty intense.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 14 2008, 02:54 AM
I'm looking forward to the real hardest difficulty.

Kinda. Well not really.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 14 2008, 02:54 AM
QUOTE (OmegaK @ Nov 14 2008, 01:45 AM)
I can't imagine how difficult the game will be on other levels. I mean, this was the first level and its still pretty intense.

on expert, yeah

but advanced is p. easy

i still don't know why there's such a fucking insane jump in difficulty from advanced - > expert, who's idea was it to more than double the damage you take on just one difficulty up

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 14 2008, 10:50 AM
FULL VERSION OF LEFT 4 DEAD IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRELOAD (!!!)

I'm wondering if you can use the materials from the preload for anything in the demo

Posted by: Hackett Nov 14 2008, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 14 2008, 03:50 PM)
FULL VERSION OF LEFT 4 DEAD IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRELOAD (!!!)

I'm wondering if you can use the materials from the preload for anything in the demo

Here's hoping it includes gmod compatability and stuff.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 14 2008, 11:13 AM
So today I was on the street, and I heard a baby cry. My first reaction was to move with caution because witch.

FFFF

Posted by: PSI Guy Nov 14 2008, 03:46 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 14 2008, 11:13 AM)
So today I was on the street, and I heard a baby cry. My first reaction was to move with caution because witch.

FFFF

aasdfsdsadf

Even better when I walk past people, then flip 180 degrees and pretend to be backstabbing them.

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 14 2008, 04:00 PM
QUOTE (PSI Guy @ Nov 14 2008, 01:46 PM)
Even better when I walk past people, then flip 180 degrees and pretend to be backstabbing them.

If you did that you'd be charged with assault.

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 14 2008, 06:13 PM
'oh man let's try expert, advanced wasn't that bad

OH HOLY JESUS ZOMBIES DO 20 DAMAGE A HIT OH GOD"

Posted by: Dracon Nov 14 2008, 07:44 PM
QUOTE
'oh man let's try expert, advanced wasn't that bad

OH HOLY JESUS ZOMBIES DO 20 DAMAGE A HIT OH GOD"

...yeah tried extreme today just to see and pretty much went like that

Wow, the jump in difficulty from hard to extreme is brutal, died twice on level one and survived an amazing 1.5 minutes in the subways. Having my weapons do less damage doesn't help. AI was dumbfucked too (on the second play to get to the subway station I had 70 HP and my teammates were at 100%, Louis hit the car and the horde pinned me down. We cleared the first wave and just when Louis was gonna revive me BAM SECOND WAVE while my team is still at 100%, they decide to fight an amazing 6 zombies while I die a slow death, boo hoo.)

I'll be playing on Hard when this game comes out ;_;

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 14 2008, 07:55 PM
do you mean advanced because hard is even harder than expert

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 14 2008, 08:27 PM
updated my drivers, can actually play this now

i have to say that expert mode is the most fun i've ever had ever

Posted by: Dracon Nov 14 2008, 08:29 PM
QUOTE (Jack Thompson @ Nov 14 2008, 07:55 PM)
do you mean advanced because hard is even harder than expert

err what


...there's a higher level than expert?

And yeah, advanced.

Posted by: Waddle dee Nov 14 2008, 08:47 PM
You know what pisses me off


When the director decides to spawn a witch in the middle of the subway train that you must walk through



If it's single player, you're screwed regardless, and if it's multiplayer, nobody wants to go near it first.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 14 2008, 09:36 PM
Or when the AI director spawns 3-4 hordes right at the beginning of the map.

Also team-killing. Too bad it happens so often that it's never really anybody's fault nor is it something to get mad at.

Expert is fucking awesome and I refuse to play anything less.

Posted by: Keyser Soze Nov 14 2008, 09:44 PM
So would it be a huge step down from the Computer version if I bought the Xbox one in order not to play at like 10fps on my shitty computer?

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 14 2008, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (Keyser Soze @ Nov 14 2008, 07:44 PM)
So would it be a huge step down from the Computer version if I bought the Xbox one in order not to play at like 10fps on my shitty computer?

Well Valve games tend to be much better on PC, not to mention the possibility of custom maps and third-party mods.

Posted by: Keyser Soze Nov 14 2008, 09:55 PM
QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Nov 14 2008, 10:53 PM)
Well Valve games tend to be much betetr on PC, not to mention the possibility of custom maps and third-party mods.

I know i know, steam and all that, I love my TF2 on the comp so much better than the xbox.

But damn, it just KILLS a game when you have to turn ALL of the gfx down to min and still play at like 10fps.

Add a couple fps off from the online play, and you've got a seriously laggy game.

Posted by: Comrade Kesha Nov 14 2008, 09:58 PM
anybody up for a game? I need two people, we play on expert (with a one win vs 432432432423 losses ratio- the one win was the first time we played)

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 15 2008, 12:03 AM
After this update, I can't connect to any servers anymore. It just stays stuck at the loading screen until it tells me that it's failed after 10 retries. Anyone else have this problem?

Posted by: Elyk Nov 15 2008, 12:15 AM
QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Nov 15 2008, 12:03 AM)
After this update, I can't connect to any servers anymore. It just stays stuck at the loading screen until it tells me that it's failed after 10 retries. Anyone else have this problem?

I've always had this problem. The only way I can play is if I lead a room and host the server locally.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 15 2008, 12:20 AM
Well this only started happening today. Now I'm in a lobby but it's taking forever to find a dedicated server. The new update must have fudged things up.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 15 2008, 03:30 AM
QUOTE (Dracon @ Nov 14 2008, 06:44 PM)
Having my weapons do less damage doesn't help.

I don't think you understand what the difficulties change. Certain types of zombies always have the same amount of HP on every difficulty. Your weapons always do the same amount of damage to zombies as they would on easy. Their damage to you changes, the chances of boss zombies increases, and the AI improves. There's some more changes, but I can't recall them at the moment.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 15 2008, 09:08 AM
QUOTE (Waddle dee @ Nov 15 2008, 02:47 AM)
and if it's multiplayer, nobody wants to go near it first.

thats not really the case. Usually someone just throws a 'nade or cocktail

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 15 2008, 12:55 PM
2.5 days left until i get to play the demo!!
apparently 1/10 of a day went by in about 2 minutes

Posted by: Hackett Nov 15 2008, 12:56 PM
QUOTE (Boxxy @ Nov 15 2008, 05:55 PM)
2.5 days left until i get to play the demo!!
apparently 1/10 of a day went by in about 2 minutes

Shame, considering the full thing will be released in that long/soon after.

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 15 2008, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (Hackett @ Nov 15 2008, 12:56 PM)
Shame, considering the full thing will be released in that long/soon after.

...i think you missed the joke

Posted by: Rob Nov 15 2008, 01:12 PM
QUOTE (Boxxy @ Nov 15 2008, 09:55 AM)
2.5 days left until i get to play the demo!!
apparently 1/10 of a day went by in about 2 minutes

BILL AS BILL!!!! LOL GET IT




nice shot bill that was my ass

Posted by: Hackett Nov 15 2008, 01:36 PM
QUOTE (Boxxy @ Nov 15 2008, 05:57 PM)
...i think you missed the joke

Oh, it's kinda hard to tell.

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 15 2008, 03:06 PM
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 15 2008, 01:12 PM)
BILL AS BILL!!!! LOL GET IT




nice shot bill that was my ass

user posted image

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 15 2008, 03:34 PM
I always play as Bill ;>

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 15 2008, 03:34 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 15 2008, 03:34 PM)
I always play as Bill ;>

omg me too

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 15 2008, 03:39 PM
I like to play as Louis.

Posted by: LeonardoDabooski Nov 15 2008, 03:42 PM
I also like to play as Louis.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 15 2008, 03:46 PM
But the game likes forcing me to play as Francis. :[

and when I play as Francis everything bad always happens to me

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 15 2008, 03:46 PM
sometimes I also play as Zoey, because it gives me attention for unknown reasons :>

Posted by: Hackett Nov 15 2008, 03:46 PM
Bill for me.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 15 2008, 04:08 PM
anyone wanna play? :3

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 15 2008, 04:10 PM
I'm in hun~!

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 15 2008, 06:50 PM
see steam name to figure out who i always play as!

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 16 2008, 06:58 AM
your avatar, avatar text thing and MSN name already spoiled it :[

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 16 2008, 08:22 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 16 2008, 05:58 AM)
your avatar, avatar text thing and MSN name already spoiled it :[

THEY COULD HAVE BEEN LYING

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 16 2008, 10:17 AM
i like playing as francis because then i can yell at the other guys when they're not doing anything

EDIT: i also hate the matchmaking service, it seems really unnecessary

i mean i keep getting all sorts of connection and server errors, but then i use the server browser and i'm in a game within ten seconds

Posted by: Dracon Nov 16 2008, 12:12 PM
user posted image

also
Spoilers:

-Zoey starts humming Final Fantasy songs when she gets nervous. (nervousHumming04.wav)
-NervousWhistle02.wav is a Zelda song.
-Francis has a Lambda shaved onto his head.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 16 2008, 12:14 PM
I miss the internet

hahahaha

Posted by: Hackett Nov 16 2008, 12:17 PM
QUOTE (Dracon @ Nov 16 2008, 05:12 PM)
user posted image

also
Spoilers:

-Zoey starts humming Final Fantasy songs when she gets nervous. (nervousHumming04.wav)
-NervousWhistle02.wav is a Zelda song.
-Francis has a Lambda shaved onto his head.

Where exactly is this place? In the cut off part of the subway level?

Posted by: Dracon Nov 16 2008, 12:19 PM
Also, the filenames for survivors are:
survivor_biker
survivor_namvet
survivor_teenangst
survivor_manager

ilu valve

QUOTE
Where exactly is this place? In the cut off part of the subway level?

I wish I knew, actually.

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 16 2008, 03:08 PM
so I was nocliping

and you can get to the next section of the level. It's really short, but has another alarm car. And a truck crashed. Well yeah.

btw spawning 6 tanks on your teammate is massive lol

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 16 2008, 03:13 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 16 2008, 02:08 PM)
so I was nocliping

and you can get to the next section of the level. It's really short, but has another alarm car. And a truck crashed. Well yeah.

btw spawning 6 tanks on your teammate is massive lol

yeah, lol at them leaving the rest of the level in there

and screw that, me and some bros spawned 20 witches and about 40 tanks

on the top of the starting building.

my ears nearly broke from the witches and we all died instantly to the tanks

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 16 2008, 03:17 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 16 2008, 12:13 PM)
yeah, lol at them leaving the rest of the level in there

and screw that, me and some bros spawned 20 witches and about 40 tanks

on the top of the starting building.

my ears nearly broke from the witches and we all died instantly to the tanks

When the music all goes from a bunch of witches at the same time oh god

Posted by: Dracon Nov 16 2008, 03:33 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 16 2008, 03:13 PM)
yeah, lol at them leaving the rest of the level in there

and screw that, me and some bros spawned 20 witches and about 40 tanks

on the top of the starting building.

my ears nearly broke from the witches and we all died instantly to the tanks

user posted image

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 16 2008, 04:04 PM
QUOTE (Dracon @ Nov 16 2008, 02:33 PM)
user posted image

i took a lot of screens from it but had to go to my fucking dad's house right afterwards so i can't upload them until later today

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 16 2008, 04:13 PM
nobody wants to play with poor old bill ;_;

Posted by: Fender Nov 16 2008, 04:18 PM
QUOTE (Dracon @ Nov 16 2008, 03:33 PM)
user posted image

dear god that looks so scary.

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 16 2008, 04:47 PM
QUOTE (Dracon @ Nov 16 2008, 10:12 AM)
Spoilers:

-Zoey starts humming Final Fantasy songs when she gets nervous. (nervousHumming04.wav)
-NervousWhistle02.wav is a Zelda song.
-Francis has a Lambda shaved onto his head.

I want to hear these but GCFscape can't open the files. How do I do it?

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 16 2008, 05:22 PM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 16 2008, 02:47 PM)
I want to hear these but GCFscape can't open the files. How do I do it?

Steam\steamapps\common\left 4 dead demo\left4dead\sound\player\survivor\voice\TeenGirl\NervousWhislte02.wav


Also I noticed that Whistle is spelled wrong.

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 16 2008, 05:38 PM
YOU ARE BEAUTIFUL, SEXY, AND CHARMING.
THANK YOU.

Posted by: Fender Nov 16 2008, 05:41 PM
user posted image
medkit melee.

it was awesome, until steam crashed :V


smashing in a boomers face with a medkit, awwwwww yessssss

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 16 2008, 06:42 PM
here are said pics

user posted image
user posted image


and a picture from our latest bonfire in the saferoom!
user posted image

funny story behind that bonfire, we had 3 guys in but the fire spread to the entire saferoom and everyone just opened fire while we waited for the guy playing louis to come.

a smoker grabs louis and he barely shoots and kills it before it kills him.

a goddamn hunter spawns and he barely times the melee to knock it off at the first pounce and kills it.

he's pissed off and RUSHING to the safe room when we hear a FUCKING TANK ROARING, he runs like HELL with like 3 HP and shuts the safe room door. as this happens the screen fades to black and The Survivors Have Escaped! screen popped up, we start spamming our laugh commands and then the door ripping off sound plays and the tank probably murdered all of us but the left 4 dead full version ad cut away just in time

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 16 2008, 06:50 PM
you can still attach stuff to people, as well as spawn two new explosives, the oxygen and propane tank

also i tried loading dustbowl, it kinda didn't work too well

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 16 2008, 07:04 PM
QUOTE (LuigiFan @ Nov 16 2008, 05:50 PM)
you can still attach stuff to people

WAT

Posted by: Elyk Nov 16 2008, 07:16 PM
hey draku

couldn't you guys have escaped down through the window and into the room below?

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 16 2008, 07:17 PM
QUOTE (LuigiFan @ Nov 16 2008, 04:50 PM)
you can still attach stuff to people, as well as spawn two new explosives, the oxygen and propane tank

also i tried loading dustbowl, it kinda didn't work too well

Yeah apparently the Dustbowl the guy on Youtube was using is a custom map. In fact trying to simply pop any other map into l4d causes it to not work. :/

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 16 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 16 2008, 04:16 PM)
hey draku

couldn't you guys have escaped down through the window and into the room below?

You can jump down to some air conditioners and pass the whole beginning in the apartments all together

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 16 2008, 07:24 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 16 2008, 05:19 PM)
You can jump down to some air conditioners and pass the whole beginning in the apartments all together

Yeah I do that like every time

Then I sit there and laugh as the rest of my team mates fail to get there and end up stuck on the ledge.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 16 2008, 07:26 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 16 2008, 06:16 PM)
hey draku

couldn't you guys have escaped down through the window and into the room below?

EXCUSE ME SIR AFTER WE SPAWNED THE TANKS THEY PRETTY MUCH MURDERED OUR ASSES WHENEVER WE SPAWNED BECAUSE THEY STAYED THERE FOR SOME REASON

you know that part at the start while you're immobile? our corpses were fucking blown away nearly every time

i was able to nearly fall to the air vent but lost my footing for some damn reason as seen in a later pic

then I had to go to my dad's right after that >:

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 16 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 16 2008, 07:04 PM)
WAT

i tested it out by attaching an ammo spawn to a guy

it moved and glowed as if it were a part of him

too bad we couldn't use it sad.gif

Posted by: Fender Nov 16 2008, 10:38 PM
QUOTE (LuigiFan @ Nov 16 2008, 08:06 PM)
i tested it out by attaching an ammo spawn to a guy

it moved and glowed as if it were a part of him

too bad we couldn't use it sad.gif

if your talking about when you attached it to shanks, who was playing as sublime, im pretty sure it let me get ammo from him.
like, when we were in the subway and you spawned all those weapons.

Posted by: Big Boo Fan Nov 17 2008, 07:05 AM
Tomorrow's the day guys!

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 17 2008, 07:11 AM
receiving the game either tomorrow or the day after

f yeah

Posted by: Hackett Nov 17 2008, 08:25 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZkllM8znx4

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 17 2008, 08:53 AM
QUOTE (LuigiFan @ Nov 17 2008, 12:50 AM)
also i tried loading dustbowl, it kinda didn't work too well

what

it worked fine for me, except for textures

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 17 2008, 12:59 PM
does anyone know an estimated time this game takes to beat

it seems super short

theatrical posters btw:

http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bloodharvest.jpg
http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/deadair.jpg
http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/deathtoll.jpg

and we all no No Mercy

Posted by: Fender Nov 17 2008, 01:06 PM
i only play as the black man.

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 17 2008, 04:54 PM
i only play as zoey

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 17 2008, 05:01 PM
I only play as Louis so I am never playing with Fender >8[


...but the game always forces me to be Francis...

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 17 2008, 05:01 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 17 2008, 06:59 PM)
does anyone know an estimated time this game takes to beat

it seems super short

theatrical posters btw:

http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bloodharvest.jpg
http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/deadair.jpg
http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/deathtoll.jpg

and we all no No Mercy

Amazing

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 17 2008, 05:41 PM
duke nukem theme as tank music is BEST TIER

Posted by: Elyk Nov 17 2008, 05:49 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 17 2008, 12:59 PM)
does anyone know an estimated time this game takes to beat

it seems super short

theatrical posters btw:

http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/bloodharvest.jpg
http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/deadair.jpg
http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/deathtoll.jpg

and we all no No Mercy

is it me or does zoey gain weight

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 17 2008, 05:53 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 17 2008, 11:49 PM)
is it me or does zoey gain weight

oh god

now that you mention it

Posted by: Fender Nov 17 2008, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 17 2008, 05:49 PM)
is it me or does zoey gain weight

PLOT TWIST

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 17 2008, 06:26 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 17 2008, 05:53 PM)
oh god

now that you mention it

teenangst

Posted by: Dracon Nov 17 2008, 06:49 PM
So I was checking some sound files out of boredom. I stumbled on Bill's voices and found this.
Spoilers:

The World____ files talk about the airport being bombed out. He also talks about the authorities doing it to prevent people from leaving. After hearing other files you can guess that the story includes the following:
-Survivors reach hospital.
-They get to the roof and radio for help.
-Team finds out there is no rescue. They go to the woods to try and get to the airport.
-They make their way to the rural areas of the city.
-They find a church where they plead refuge.


Or something. Listen to the files yourself, figure out the story by your own.

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 17 2008, 07:43 PM
Spoilers:
Zoey's top half is copypasted on No Mercy and Blood Harvest's posters

Posted by: Elyk Nov 17 2008, 08:37 PM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 17 2008, 07:43 PM)
Spoilers:
Zoey's top half is copypasted on No Mercy and Blood Harvest's posters

Spoilers:
francis has the same art on both the dead air and death toll pictures

Posted by: Rob Nov 17 2008, 10:27 PM
game comes out in about one and a half hours soveryhappy.gif

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 17 2008, 11:12 PM
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 17 2008, 08:27 PM)
game comes out in about one and a half hours soveryhappy.gif

wait what

shit I thought it was TOMORROW night

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 18 2008, 12:14 AM
game's out

but i dont have my copy yet lol >:

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 18 2008, 01:42 AM
ffff

still 10 hours till I can enjoy myself ;__;

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 18 2008, 03:02 AM
Well I have to go all the way to sleep, wake up, go to school, do homework and whatever else **** my mom decides I have to do, and then maybe if I'm lucky I'll be able to find a retail copy of the game somewhere. If not online purchasing might be possible, but either way man I'm so pumped.

So enjoy your 10 hours, Mecha.

Also there's porn of Zoey ALREADY jesus christ

Posted by: PSI Guy Nov 18 2008, 03:12 AM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 18 2008, 03:02 AM)
Also there's porn of Zoey ALREADY jesus christ

Why am I not surprised.

Posted by: LeonardoDabooski Nov 18 2008, 05:05 AM
Ok so apparently there's a box like this in one part of the game.
user posted image
Notice the ''Collect all 10!'' part.

Posted by: Elyk Nov 18 2008, 07:03 AM
QUOTE (LeonardoDabooski @ Nov 18 2008, 05:05 AM)
Ok so apparently there's a box like this in one part of the game.
user posted image
Notice the ''Collect all 10!'' part.

it's on the back of the cereal box that's sitting on the table in the kitchen/dining room

Posted by: OmegaK Nov 18 2008, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 18 2008, 07:42 AM)
ffff

still 10 hours till I can enjoy myself ;__;

better than 37 days.

Posted by: Elyk Nov 18 2008, 02:48 PM
why did they have to lock the demo :(

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 18 2008, 04:52 PM
so I played with Hackett and some of his lads today



... it was awesome

we actually used our mics to figure out tatics, tell me to cover myself, tell me to get away from boomers, tell me to crouch etc

nobody loved me in that game ;__;
but it was still really amazing

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 18 2008, 05:04 PM
I don't have any money. ;_;

Posted by: Fender Nov 18 2008, 05:08 PM
anyone know if they sell this retail?

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 18 2008, 05:09 PM
they will at the 21th or something

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 18 2008, 05:20 PM
so no more l4d for me until christmas :<

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 18 2008, 05:41 PM
QUOTE (Fender @ Nov 18 2008, 04:08 PM)
anyone know if they sell this retail?

yeah

QUOTE
they will at the 21th or something

if you're gay and live in the uk yeah but they started selling it retail today

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 18 2008, 05:46 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 18 2008, 02:09 PM)
they will at the 21th or something

it is 21st btw

I have said this to you like 999 times

Posted by: Bill Ding Nov 18 2008, 06:06 PM
QUOTE (Mr. Aforcer @ Nov 18 2008, 05:46 PM)
it is 21st btw

I have said this to you like 999 times

maybe he has a lisp

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 18 2008, 06:38 PM
QUOTE (Boxxy @ Nov 18 2008, 03:06 PM)
maybe he has a lisp

internet lisp

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 18 2008, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (Boxxy @ Nov 18 2008, 05:06 PM)
maybe he has a lisp

no he has a lithp

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 19 2008, 08:25 AM
I blame my lack of attention while writing it

Posted by: Hackett Nov 19 2008, 10:44 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 18 2008, 09:52 PM)
so I played with Hackett and some of his lads today



... it was awesome

we actually used our mics to figure out tatics, tell me to cover myself, tell me to get away from boomers, tell me to crouch etc

nobody loved me in that game ;__;
but it was still really amazing

'Don't trust Mecha with boomers' I think it was.

Posted by: Tick-Tick Nov 19 2008, 02:39 PM
Cool I can host a game with 8 players and all had green bars.
Man I LOVE the game <3

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 19 2008, 09:19 PM
L4D
==
GOTY

seriously ill host some versus after i finish up the last 2 campaigns later tonight, shit fucking ROCKS

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 20 2008, 12:30 PM
So am I the only one thinking how they 'cut' the cutscenes makes it feel like something is lacking?

I mean, it'd be great with some kind of movie between each campaign to connect them, but right now they aren't at all.

Posted by: ChaosEmerl Nov 20 2008, 01:25 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 20 2008, 12:30 PM)
So am I the only one thinking how they 'cut' the cutscenes makes it feel like something is lacking?

I mean, it'd be great with some kind of movie between each campaign to connect them, but right now they aren't at all.

The campaigns aren't supposed to be connected. They're alternate storylines. If they were rescued at the end of every single one, there would be no reason for the next one to start up.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 20 2008, 05:40 PM
im sorry did i say "tonight"

i meant tonight today, lol

hosting vs later today

Posted by: Dracon Nov 20 2008, 08:08 PM
So did anyone else find out that in vs. mode the boss zombies can help incapacitated players back up?

Posted by: Rob Nov 20 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE (Dracon @ Nov 20 2008, 05:08 PM)
So did anyone else find out that in vs. mode the boss zombies can help incapacitated players back up?

wat???


tell me how to do this to grief

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 20 2008, 09:48 PM
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 20 2008, 07:46 PM)
wat???


tell me how to do this to grief

hold e by a survivor, lol

also hostan at 9 (10 mins)

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 20 2008, 10:34 PM
I think saving a survivor loses you points though

I want this so badly. ;_;

Posted by: Rob Nov 20 2008, 11:21 PM
oh hey guys i got the cr0wnd achievement

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 20 2008, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 20 2008, 10:21 PM)
oh hey guys i got the cr0wnd achievement

how the FUCK

also that was fun up until it kicked everyone because steam sucks shit and my 5th map of blood harvest in vs mode was TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE'S (but it was perfectly normal)

Posted by: Rob Nov 21 2008, 12:14 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 20 2008, 08:57 PM)
how the ****

1. Get auto-shotty
2. Get behind the Witch
3. Shoot her head as soon as you see her face
4. ????
5. PROFIT

Posted by: Hackett Nov 21 2008, 07:09 AM
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 21 2008, 05:14 AM)
1. Get auto-shotty
2. Get behind the Witch
3. Shoot her head as soon as you see her face
4. ????
5. PROFIT

Auto shotty is good for the job, but it leaves less room for inaccuracy (IE. You HAVE to shoot her and get all of the shot to hit her head) as it's slightly weaker when compared to the Pump shotty. That being said, Auto is safer in some aspects as if you **** it up then you can keep unloading before she slices you a new eye socket.

EDIT: http://www.wegame.com/watch/L4D_cr0wned_Achievement/

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 21 2008, 01:19 PM
I just got it aswell when I accidentally the ENTIRE witch

Posted by: Keyser Soze Nov 21 2008, 03:34 PM
SO I got this for Xbox due to shitty computer, not bad, players online are actually good unlike xbox tf2

Just wish I could play witch yous guys..

Posted by: kane]deth[ Nov 21 2008, 04:56 PM
I finally got back from my trip to play this game but...
I can't find any games playing sewers! I don't want to skip ahead, but I don't want to play the first 2 stages either.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 21 2008, 05:30 PM
QUOTE (kane]deth[ @ Nov 21 2008, 03:56 PM)
I finally got back from my trip to play this game but...
I can't find any games playing sewers! I don't want to skip ahead, but I don't want to play the first 2 stages either.

the first two stages will take you 5-30 minutes

christ

Posted by: Keyser Soze Nov 21 2008, 07:50 PM
Just beat the last campaign.

Those were great and I can't wait to get online, it'll be like Dustbowl with zombies no snipers.

But still, very few maps, I assume Valve is planning to release new maps correct? I also assume these will be free on the PC and will come out a year late and cost 15$ on the Xbox, forcing me to buy a good PC and get L4D for it...

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 21 2008, 07:51 PM
QUOTE (Keyser Soze @ Nov 21 2008, 06:50 PM)
I can't wait to get online, it'll be like Dustbowl

except not desert, actually good, balanced, and completely different

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 21 2008, 08:53 PM
also hosting vs (fixed my problem) in like 15 mins

Posted by: Robbydude Nov 21 2008, 09:35 PM
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i think i would have liked louis more like this

Posted by: Robbydude Nov 21 2008, 09:40 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 17 2008, 06:49 PM)
is it me or does zoey gain weight

well they do have to repopulate

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 21 2008, 10:43 PM
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1360/l4dvsfarm04barn0000ta3.jpg

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FUCK YEAH!

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 21 2008, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 21 2008, 08:43 PM)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1360/l4dvsfarm04barn0000ta3.jpg

Fun fact: When covered in puke you cannot see shit.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 21 2008, 11:09 PM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 21 2008, 10:07 PM)
Fun fact: When covered in puke you cannot see shit.

see the guy with the yellow outline, not blinded and looking at me?

he didnt kill me for a while.

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 21 2008, 11:50 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 21 2008, 09:09 PM)
see the guy with the yellow outline, not blinded and looking at me?

he didnt kill me for a while.

Who was that?

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 22 2008, 01:32 AM
no idea who it was BUUUUUUUUUUUUT
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was on advanced, cant believe it

Posted by: kane]deth[ Nov 22 2008, 10:19 AM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 21 2008, 11:50 PM)
Who was that?

D:
Sorry for being a nub

Posted by: Rob Nov 22 2008, 10:43 AM
can it be L4D Gmod tiem now?

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Edit: It seems that the L4D models are bigger than the HL2 models.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 22 2008, 11:46 AM
i wish it was easier to get them to work

i'd do it the long and manual way i found but then they'll just release an update that does it better and updates everything for gmod the next day or some shit

Posted by: Elyk Nov 22 2008, 03:39 PM
so what is this outbreak achievement and why is it separate from the other ones?

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 22 2008, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 22 2008, 09:39 PM)
so what is this outbreak achievement and why is it separate from the other ones?

I'm not sure, but I somehow unlocked it.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 22 2008, 04:12 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 22 2008, 02:39 PM)
so what is this outbreak achievement and why is it separate from the other ones?

versus mode, if someone with the achieve vomits on a survivor as a boomer, the survivor will get it. it's one of those "pass it on" achieves.

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 22 2008, 04:35 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 22 2008, 10:12 PM)
versus mode, if someone with the achieve vomits on a survivor as a boomer, the survivor will get it. it's one of those "pass it on" achieves.

clever

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 23 2008, 12:52 PM
disregard this

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 23 2008, 06:29 PM
super zombie punchout

Posted by: Elyk Nov 23 2008, 07:11 PM
playing as the infected is really fun even if I have an average life span of 3 seconds

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 23 2008, 08:13 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 23 2008, 05:11 PM)
playing as the infected is really fun even if I have an average life span of 3 seconds

Co-operation is almost as important, even just as important, as when playing Survivors.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 23 2008, 09:56 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 23 2008, 06:11 PM)
playing as the infected is really fun even if I have an average life span of 3 seconds

that's kinda how infected are meant to play. get in there and fuck shit up as much as possible in a short timeframe before you die. get boomers to vomit on people, and in the distraction grab/pounce the other survivors or let the tank run in and kick ass.

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 24 2008, 12:00 AM
this game is discriminatory against fat people


Posted by: CrashMan Nov 24 2008, 12:05 AM
QUOTE (Jack Thompson @ Nov 23 2008, 11:00 PM)
this game is discriminatory against fat people

THEY THROW UP ALL OVER THE DAMN PLACE

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 24 2008, 03:47 AM
I...Don't get it.

EVERY time I play public Versus Mode. I get a team that has one guy who either goes AFK or quits before it even STARTS, and everyone else INSISTS on going separate ways, or not even going anywhere at all DESPITE I OR OTHERS TELLING THEM TO GET THEIR ASSES MOVING.

As such, our team ends up being destroyed halfway or so through the stage (Or when a tank appears) and the other team simply breezes through.


Keep in mind this has literally happened for the last 3-4 times I've tried. Except one game that was full of clanfags constantly spouting their clan name and kicking non-fags to make room for their own kind. That was even worse.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 24 2008, 02:42 PM
QUOTE (MegaTailzChao @ Nov 24 2008, 02:47 AM)
I...Don't get it.

EVERY time I play public Versus Mode. I get a team that has one guy who either goes AFK or quits before it even STARTS, and everyone else INSISTS on going separate ways, or not even going anywhere at all DESPITE I OR OTHERS TELLING THEM TO GET THEIR ASSES MOVING.

As such, our team ends up being destroyed halfway or so through the stage (Or when a tank appears) and the other team simply breezes through.


Keep in mind this has literally happened for the last 3-4 times I've tried. Except one game that was full of clanfags constantly spouting their clan name and kicking non-fags to make room for their own kind. That was even worse.

i got ONE good public vs game

but i usually just host it myself and get a somewhat good game rolling (last night was the only time i didn't fill it up and that one turned out... yeah.) until everyone starts getting steamrolled askfjkd

Posted by: Elyk Nov 24 2008, 10:36 PM
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Posted by: CrashMan Nov 24 2008, 11:47 PM
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I can't believe I pulled this off and still got over 130 FPS.

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 24 2008, 11:54 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 24 2008, 12:42 PM)
but i usually just host it myself and get a somewhat good game rolling (last night was the only time i didn't fill it up and that one turned out... yeah.) until everyone starts getting steamrolled askfjkd

Good times. smile.gif

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 25 2008, 12:17 AM
Oh man I just played Versus for the first time. Fucking sweet except I still haven't been able to play as a tank.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 25 2008, 12:26 AM
QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Nov 24 2008, 11:17 PM)
Oh man I just played Versus for the first time. Fucking sweet except I still haven't been able to play as a tank.

tank is fun as shit to play

unless the survivors kite you and your teammates are all idiots

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 25 2008, 01:53 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 24 2008, 10:26 PM)
tank is fun as **** to play

unless the survivors kite you and your teammates are all idiots

There should be a mode where all four Infected are Tanks. Always. cool2.gif

Posted by: Pikablu Nov 25 2008, 08:31 AM
Fuck I should get some money a-
wait I should upgrade first because in the demo I got about 6 fps average
sfasffaasfsaf

Posted by: Keyser Soze Nov 25 2008, 10:57 AM
I realized that if you just scream at your team to run as fast as they can as survivors in versus you win fairly easily, due to the infected team not being able to keep up/spawn in time. (This only works if you run as fast as you can AND KEEP TOGETHER)
When teams try to get all tactical and shit with 2 people facing backwards and 2 facing forwards or all of the other stupid strategies I have encountered, it fails miserably.

Posted by: Rob Nov 25 2008, 07:17 PM
oh hey guys

Bill and Father Gregori = same voice actor
Francis and Sniper = same voice actor
Louis, Demoman, and Heavy = same voice actor
Zoey and Peach = same voice actor
Smoker, Hunter, Spy, and Pyro = same voice actor

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 25 2008, 07:36 PM
QUOTE (Rob @ Nov 25 2008, 05:17 PM)
oh hey guys

Bill and Father Gregori = same voice actor
Francis and Sniper = same voice actor
Louis, Demoman, and Heavy = same voice actor
Zoey and Peach = same voice actor
Smoker, Hunter, Spy, and Pyro = same voice actor

holy shit

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 25 2008, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (Keyser Soze @ Nov 25 2008, 09:57 AM)
I realized that if you just scream at your team to run as fast as they can as survivors in versus you win fairly easily, due to the infected team not being able to keep up/spawn in time. (This only works if you run as fast as you can AND KEEP TOGETHER)
When teams try to get all tactical and shit with 2 people facing backwards and 2 facing forwards or all of the other stupid strategies I have encountered, it fails miserably.

on the 360 version

on pc version you still have to run like hell but usually the infected can still catch you.

Posted by: Big Boo Fan Nov 26 2008, 09:34 PM
So today I decided to bind the laugh command and the shoot command to left mouse.

Good times were had

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 26 2008, 09:53 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 26 2008, 05:49 AM)
on pc version you still have to run like hell but usually the infected can still catch you.

The respawn times are unbalanced, though. 20 seconds for 4 players is just... wow.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 26 2008, 09:59 PM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 26 2008, 08:53 PM)
The respawn times are unbalanced, though. 20 seconds for 4 players is just... wow.

what the fuck are you talking about

that's completely balanced, if the infected spawned like nothing it'd be absolutely ridiculous and you know it

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 27 2008, 06:37 PM
versus servers on anything other than normal are fucking retarded

expert versus? what the fuck is that shit

leave spawn, die within 10 feet

hurr

Posted by: Elyk Nov 27 2008, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (Jack Thompson @ Nov 27 2008, 06:37 PM)
versus servers on anything other than normal are fucking retarded

expert versus? what the fuck is that shit

leave spawn, die within 10 feet

hurr

I wasn't aware you could even change versus difficulties.

Posted by: Dispenser Nov 27 2008, 08:29 PM
Oh man i just saw some vids.

I'm totally getting this for my birthday ( March 10th ) if ever i get a dvd drive and a better graphics card

Posted by: MegaTailzChao Nov 27 2008, 09:27 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 26 2008, 07:59 PM)
what the **** are you talking about

that's completely balanced, if the infected spawned like nothing it'd be absolutely ridiculous and you know it

In before INSTANT RESPAWN INCREASED MAXPLAYERS INFINITE AMMO ALLCRITS server

Posted by: Joey Nov 27 2008, 10:26 PM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 27 2008, 08:15 PM)
I wasn't aware you could even change versus difficulties.

Console commands if you're the server owner. Also, wat? Versus not good in expert mode? Someone sucks at this game.

Either way, the only reasons survivors lose on versus no matter the difficulty level are:
1. Infected are coordinated
2. Survivors are not coordinated.

Maybe your team just sucks, bro.

QUOTE
I realized that if you just scream at your team to run as fast as they can as survivors in versus you win fairly easily,


wut. The moment one person is barfed on your entire team is either slowed down or cut and spread out. The less people that make it the less points you get. Careful teams almost usually get more points.

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 27 2008, 11:01 PM
QUOTE
Either way, the only reasons survivors lose on versus no matter the difficulty level are:
1. Infected are coordinated
2. Survivors are not coordinated.


please tell me what kind of survivors you're playing with in expert versus that can survive player controlled special infected that nail you for like 20 damage a hit and normal infected for 10

or hey, a tank that downs you in 2 hits max

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 27 2008, 11:03 PM
don't make stupid claims that you can't back up, especially when you haven't even beaten any campaign on expert yet

Posted by: LuigiFan Nov 27 2008, 11:14 PM
QUOTE (Jack Thompson @ Nov 27 2008, 11:01 PM)

please tell me what kind of survivors you're playing with in expert versus that can survive player controlled special infected that nail you for like 20 damage a hit and normal infected for 10

or hey, a tank that downs you in 2 hits max

i thought the normal infected were the ones that got you for 20 damage a hit

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 27 2008, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (LuigiFan @ Nov 27 2008, 09:14 PM)
i thought the normal infected were the ones that got you for 20 damage a hit

They are.

Anyway, yeah Joey is right. When the team sucks then they lose.

But then again, playing it on expert will still be a fuck ton harder even if the infected are stupid.

Posted by: Joey Nov 27 2008, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (Jack Thompson @ Nov 27 2008, 11:03 PM)
don't make stupid claims that you can't back up, especially when you haven't even beaten any campaign on expert yet

Rage much? Must've been quite an amount to warrant a double post, almost as if I didn't answer your post fast enough so I must be bull-shitting you.

I can survive the normal versus just fine if all of us on the team are coordinated and in clear contact. Expert, campaign or versus, is tough and a big challenge, THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. Forget your wussy medium difficulty mode.

In versus, infected hordes are complete pushovers (you can just let them whack on you for a grand total of 3 damage per hit... hell, you can practically IGNORE THEM. Also puke hordes are tiny baby hordes), and special infected are pretty much three-bullet kills (and with Smoker immobile for 1.5 seconds after losing his capture? And Hunters/Boomers temporarily retarded after being shoved, unable to do ANYTHING? Please.) Versus in EXPERT MODE, however, separates the babies from the men. Metaphorically speaking.

You say expert versus is bullshit and unplayable, I say it's fun, a challenge, and beatable if your team doesn't suck.

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 27 2008, 11:57 PM
actually i double post because for whatever reason i can't edit or reply via quotes/normal reply anymore

i've beaten versus on advanced and expert - my team ended up winning by a few points simply neither team ever made it to the finish


Posted by: Elyk Nov 28 2008, 07:53 PM
don't you hate it when you get a teammate that doesn't listen to you

other guy: witch
me: I'll get it.

then he starts shooting it with a smg right as I get close to it
YOU STARTLED THE WITCH

Posted by: Joey Nov 28 2008, 07:59 PM
I can't headshot the witch no matter how hard I try. And this is when I shoot her head with a sniper rifle (when she lifts her head up). What's the secret?

Posted by: Elyk Nov 28 2008, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (Joey @ Nov 28 2008, 07:59 PM)
I can't headshot the witch no matter how hard I try. And this is when I shoot her head with a sniper rifle (when she lifts her head up). What's the secret?

I did it from a foot away with an autoshotgun.

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 28 2008, 08:17 PM
QUOTE (Joey @ Nov 28 2008, 06:59 PM)
I can't headshot the witch no matter how hard I try. And this is when I shoot her head with a sniper rifle (when she lifts her head up). What's the secret?

the secret is that you're using the hunting rifle to headshot something that can't be killed with the hunting rifle in one hit.

you have to use the pump or auto shotgun to do it.

Posted by: Eno the Red Guy Nov 28 2008, 08:26 PM
I've been playing this for a while, myself. I think I'm decent in the normal campaign (haven't really played on Expert though) as I tend to get the highest amount of infected kills, but in versus mode it's really a mixed bag. I need more practice there...

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 28 2008, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Eno the Red Guy @ Nov 28 2008, 07:26 PM)
I've been playing this for a while, myself. I think I'm decent in the normal campaign (haven't really played on Expert though) as I tend to get the highest amount of infected kills, but in versus mode it's really a mixed bag. I need more practice there...

versus mode is completely different from coop campaigns, i'll tell you that much

Posted by: Eno the Red Guy Nov 28 2008, 08:47 PM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 29 2008, 01:40 AM)
versus mode is completely different from coop campaigns, i'll tell you that much

Indeed. It's mostly the fact there's a lot more special infected and they're a whole lot smarter (usually) so its harder to focus on just killing zombies.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 28 2008, 09:05 PM
I definately need to try expert versus.

And expert in general. I've only played expert on no mercy and it was hard as shit even with coordinated teammates.

Posted by: Joey Nov 29 2008, 12:44 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 28 2008, 08:17 PM)
the secret is that you're using the hunting rifle to headshot something that can't be killed with the hunting rifle in one hit.

you have to use the pump or auto shotgun to do it.

>headshot

>can't with hunting rifle

wat. am I the only person who thinks that's retarded

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 29 2008, 12:50 AM
QUOTE (Joey @ Nov 28 2008, 11:44 PM)
>headshot

>can't with hunting rifle

wat. am I the only person who thinks that's retarded

you can headshot it with the hunting rifle to stun it

but a hunting rifle headshot will not kill a witch.

Posted by: Joey Nov 29 2008, 12:50 AM
QUOTE (CrashMan @ Nov 29 2008, 12:50 AM)
you can headshot it with the hunting rifle to stun it

but a hunting rifle headshot will not kill a witch.

still think that's retarded

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 29 2008, 01:09 AM
QUOTE (Joey @ Nov 28 2008, 11:50 PM)
still think that's retarded

well the hunting rifle is not powerful enough to do enough damage in a headshot. it makes sense that only a shotgun could pull it off.

Posted by: BubbleMan Nov 29 2008, 01:21 AM
QUOTE (Joey @ Nov 28 2008, 10:50 PM)
still think that's retarded

Well it sort of makes sense. I mean, a headshot from a shotgun, a weapon that specializes in close range combat, should do more damage than a rifle that specializes in accuracy at long distances.

Posted by: Elyk Nov 29 2008, 01:24 AM
afaik with a shotgun you are putting 10 times as many bullets into her head than with a hunting rifle

Posted by: Mr. Aforcer Nov 29 2008, 04:19 AM
QUOTE (Elyk @ Nov 28 2008, 10:24 PM)
afaik with a shotgun you are putting 6 times as many bullets into her head than with a hunting rifle

actually you're putting one less bullet in

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 29 2008, 07:27 AM
To be honest, I'm slightly disappointed in the witch. I had imagined that she would make a dramatic turn of event if woken, and it would probably cost everyone's lives. Right now, I'm just running up to her and rapidly shooting her with the autoshotgun, and she's dead. She didn't even hurt anyone. I'm not saying the witch is useless. When you're to your neck with zombies, and you accidentally activate her, she can probably take out everyone, but there's honestly no more sneaking past her from my side.

Posted by: kane]deth[ Nov 29 2008, 11:23 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 29 2008, 07:27 AM)
To be honest, I'm slightly disappointed in the witch. I had imagined that she would make a dramatic turn of event if woken, and it would probably cost everyone's lives. Right now, I'm just running up to her and rapidly shooting her with the autoshotgun, and she's dead. She didn't even hurt anyone. I'm not saying the witch is useless. When you're to your neck with zombies, and you accidentally activate her, she can probably take out everyone, but there's honestly no more sneaking past her from my side.

Well, if you're talking about versus maybe

but try beating her on expert by yourself!

Posted by: CrashMan Nov 29 2008, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Nov 29 2008, 06:27 AM)
To be honest, I'm slightly disappointed in the witch. I had imagined that she would make a dramatic turn of event if woken, and it would probably cost everyone's lives. Right now, I'm just running up to her and rapidly shooting her with the autoshotgun, and she's dead. She didn't even hurt anyone. I'm not saying the witch is useless. When you're to your neck with zombies, and you accidentally activate her, she can probably take out everyone, but there's honestly no more sneaking past her from my side.

that's the point. she's easy to avoid/take out if you have the time to pay attention to her, but if you're playing expert or some shit and zombies are swarming you and you're firing at them and frantically running, you can easily startle the witch by accident and get fucked over.

she's also very helpful to the infected in vs mode, where if the infected have even half a brain they will stand near the witch so when you shoot them you blast the witch too. smokers can pull survivors to the witch and force a startle, all infected save for the tank can use their right click on the witch to get it to stand up and be almost startled, prepping it for the survivors to come running in and push it over the edge.

Posted by: Elyk Nov 29 2008, 12:31 PM
similar to how if your entire team shoots at a tank for a few seconds you can easily take it down without damage

Posted by: Joey Nov 29 2008, 11:12 PM
Actually, now that I kill witches all day with auto shotty, she just seems like a newfag indicator.

Newfags can't wake her up and kill her alone.

Posted by: Jack Thompson Nov 30 2008, 05:13 PM
i spent 5 minutes looking for the goddamn screenshots folder today

Posted by: Mecha the Slag Nov 30 2008, 05:23 PM
That was cool. Also notice how I ran at the witch and shot her? :[

also what Joey said

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