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Posted: Jun 8 2006, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE (Dburnell01 @ Jun 8 2006, 11:31 PM)
Question I ask, is why do people believe in god?

I have felt alone in my own mind all my life. I have never heard the voice of god, I have not seen any angels, or anything like that. Therefor, not seeing any change/instance of reality from god, I can conclude god does not exist. So, what people are telling me, is that I should believe in blind faith? Nope. I will be completely moralistic, I will do what is right, but I simply cannot believe in god when there is no evidence. And when I mean evidence, I mean anything that can directly connect me to the fact that god exists (I.E. Seeing, hearing, feeling, ect, NOT anything with a chance AT ALL that it could have been made by chance alone.).

Try to examine what I think when I wrote this.

Oh no, now you've gone and done it...

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Posted: Jun 8 2006, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (Dburnell01 @ Jun 8 2006, 05:31 PM)
Question I ask, is why do people believe in god?

I have felt alone in my own mind all my life. I have never heard the voice of god, I have not seen any angels, or anything like that. Therefor, not seeing any change/instance of reality from god, I can conclude god does not exist. So, what people are telling me, is that I should believe in blind faith? Nope. I will be completely moralistic, I will do what is right, but I simply cannot believe in god when there is no evidence. And when I mean evidence, I mean anything that can directly connect me to the fact that god exists (I.E. Seeing, hearing, feeling, ect, NOT anything with a chance AT ALL that it could have been made by chance alone.).

Try to examine what I think when I wrote this.

What the heck are you talking about.


No one is questioning your beliefs, so you have absolutely no reason to mock religion or become offended at others. This topic is about a dumb man that tried to prove God is real by jumping into a pit of lions.

So please refrain from making anymore insults, because nobody is invoking you to do so. We want to keep from having flamewars that spark from religious arguments.

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oh, i thought you meant threatened as in

"rawr imma eat you"
"oh shi i'd better escape and leave a trail of babehs to distract yuo"
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Posted: Jun 8 2006, 05:41 PM
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That last post was pretty much free of insult and mockery.


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Posted: Jun 8 2006, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE (Citrus @ Jun 8 2006, 05:41 PM)
That last post was pretty much free of insult and mockery.

And also had nothing to do with the topic because we weren't questioning his beliefs o_o


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oh, i thought you meant threatened as in

"rawr imma eat you"
"oh shi i'd better escape and leave a trail of babehs to distract yuo"
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Posted: Jun 8 2006, 05:45 PM
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I was kinda speaking to Mecha, and explaning him what I thought. I probablly should have quoted him.


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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Citrus @ Jun 8 2006, 07:00 AM)
My reason for living is that I want to live.

That was where I was going if nobody replied with that by the time I finished writing a page on MMBN
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Also, the reason most believe in God is simply that many people are insecure about some thing or another; Christianity, lacking any substance or support, plays the "We will help you with anything ever and fix it" card, which attracts people like Internet ads.

Different branches also handle this different ways, as do Internet ads: whereas some use God and only God, others will use saints.

"WORSHIP ST ANTHONY NOW AND FIND YOUR LOST CAT"
"YOU COULD WIN SALVATION AND A LIFE IN HEAVEN!!!"
"ENTER NOW"

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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 04:03 PM
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Theists also use rational argument to promote their beliefs.
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QUOTE ("the argument from omniscience")
  • God is understood to be an individual or being who knows everything, i.e., is omniscient. If something is true, God (real or fictitious) would know it. Similarly, if something is false, God (real or fictitious) would know that as well. Along with this goes the fact that we conceive of God as encompassing all rationality. A being who created the universe but was irrational, for example, would not appropriately be called God.

  • All rational individuals believe in their own existence. Even if they don't exist, this is presumed to be the case. Popeye is conceived of as believing in his own existence. He is simply mistaken about this fact. Existing individuals believe correctly in their own existence, while fictitious individuals are sadly mistaken on this point.

  • If God did not exist, then by our first point, above, God would know that he or she did not exist. But this contradicts our second point. So God must exist.


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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE (Bungalo @ Jun 8 2006, 01:10 PM)
Christianity need to go back to ruling countries.

It surely does not.

People have fought and given their lives to the cause to seperate Church from State.

The two should never be reunited.
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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE (Bungalo @ Jun 8 2006, 03:10 AM)
Christianity need to go back to ruling countries.

What about KISSTIANITY:
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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 07:07 PM
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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Jun 10 2006, 12:07 AM)
I'd be a Kissian

I wonder what would happen if Kistians ruled the land!

Like brothers, us men would howl at the moon, night after night, rocking and rolling, and partying everyday - while the women get raped by Motley Crue, and the members of Judas Priest would patrol the skies on skeletal wildebeests, with ember hot eyes and horns replacing their ears!


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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (Kaepora Ocelot @ Jun 10 2006, 10:12 AM)
I wonder what would happen if Kistians ruled the land!

Like brothers, us men would howl at the moon, night after night, rocking and rolling, and partying everyday - while the women get raped by Motley Crue, and the members of Judas Priest would patrol the skies on skeletal wildebeests, with ember hot eyes and horns replacing their ears!

If it weren't for that rape part, it'd be okay-ish.
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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE (Citrus @ Jun 9 2006, 03:03 PM)
If God did not exist, then by our first point, above, God would know that he or she did not exist.

How the f*** are you supposed to know ANYTHING if YOU DO NOT EXIST


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Posted: Jun 9 2006, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Jun 10 2006, 11:26 AM)
How the f*** are you supposed to know ANYTHING if YOU DO NOT EXIST

True.
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QUOTE (Citrus @ Jun 10 2006, 07:03 AM)
Theists also use rational argument to promote their beliefs.
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@Citrus: "All rational individuals believe in their own existence. Even if they don't exist, this is presumed to be the case. Popeye is conceived of as believing in his own existence. He is simply mistaken about this fact. Existing individuals believe correctly in their own existence, while fictitious individuals are sadly mistaken on this point."

Using Popeye as an example is rather hilarious, as Popeye was the figment of an individual's imagination, his form drawn in frames, his voice provided by a voice actor, and his thoughts provided by a scriptwriter. He is not an individual body with consciousness or the ability to conjure thoughts.

And that, my comrades, was an example of theist rationality.
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Posted: Jun 10 2006, 07:53 AM
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QUOTE (Xgoff @ Jun 10 2006, 02:26 AM)
How the f*** are you supposed to know ANYTHING if YOU DO NOT EXIST

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Using Popeye as an example is rather hilarious, as Popeye was the figment of an individual's imagination, his form drawn in frames, his voice provided by a voice actor, and his thoughts provided by a scriptwriter. He is not an individual body with consciousness or the ability to conjure thoughts.


Haha... the sneaky philosophical argument couldn't trick yous wink.gif

You can't have identity without existence. That seems sensible enough anyway. but what about fictional characters? Does Popeye eat spinach? Will you say yes? But how can he eat anything if he doesn't exist! Perhaps we can say he has his existence and identity as a fictional character in a fictional world. Not the real world. So in his world, he thinks he exists and is correct. But where is this invisible world? In the mind? Who's mind!? And what about plot holes. Contradictions. Fans trying to justify and rationalize them away, with all the passion and determination of a Biblical apologist. And fan fiction.

maybe I'll come up with some answers.

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Posted: Jun 10 2006, 04:27 PM
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God is laughing at this guy for his stupidity.


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Posted: Jun 11 2006, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE (Citrus @ Jun 10 2006, 10:53 PM)
(Am I the only one having fun here)

Nope.
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