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Posted: Jul 13 2006, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (Klobber @ Jul 14 2006, 03:32 AM)
because when I look at a mini-game comp I'm expecting to find stuff along the lines of Mario Party or Kritter's theme park fangame.

Precisely. It wears off the novelty when you're playing an incredibly deep game that's pitted up against "Super Luigi Pong".

I wouldn't go to my four year old brother's school's talent show anticipating his teachers covering a Motley Crue song.

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Posted: Jul 13 2006, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE (Mario Gamer @ Jul 14 2006, 03:36 AM)
First off, my entry this time was going to be what you call a mini-game anyway. But I wouldn't expect you to know that. We were only talking about adding more time because there weren't 5 entries. If there was I wouldn't have brought it up.

Exactly - so when you barely have time to finish and enter a minigame for a competition, why should we expect you to battle such skewed odds as a complete Mario platformer?


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Posted: Jul 13 2006, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 13 2006, 09:37 PM)
So just because they're simple excuses the fact that his entry is a minigame collection?

Yes. The minigames are short and simple. Nothing fancy.

If anything yours would be longer than his.


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Posted: Jul 13 2006, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (Mario Gamer @ Jul 13 2006, 10:37 PM)
I was talking about your photoshop logic there.

Do you even know what the word logic means? You keep throwing it around loosely.

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QUOTE (Gyiyg Strikes Back! @ Jul 13 2006, 10:39 PM)
Exactly - so when you barely have time to finish and enter a minigame for a competition, why should we expect you to battle such skewed odds as a complete Mario platformer?

I see your point, but I don't agree with it. Again if this was to be done then there should be size limits on the other compos. It's about having time and using that time. Me, I didn't use all the time I should've and that's my fault. That's why you don't see my game in the top 5.

And anyway who's to decide what's a mini-game and what's not? You can't go by file size.


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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 13 2006, 10:42 PM)
Do you even know what the word logic means? You keep throwing it around loosely.

Would you consider your fighting game from before a mini-game?


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QUOTE (King Bobo @ Jul 13 2006, 10:41 PM)
Yes. The minigames are short and simple. Nothing fancy.

If anything yours would be longer than his.

MINIgames. That's what they are. They aren't a large game, they're small. His game featured several minigames, which does not make the whole thing a minigame, it makes it a full game that features a collection of minigames. Is the actual Wario Ware a minigame? It has a bunch of microgames in it, and with what you just said, I guess that means it's a minigame.
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QUOTE (Mario Gamer @ Jul 14 2006, 03:43 AM)
And anyway who's to decide what's a mini-game and what's not? You can't go by file size.

Because unless somebody writes a set of rules for the minigame competition complete chaos will ensue.


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The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is a minigame.

Super Mario World is a minigame.

Super Mario Epic is a minigame.

If you see anything wrong with the above statements, you can tell the difference between a "full" game and a minigame :P

Why is this so complicated it should be common sense ;_; Does anyone here honestly NOT know what we are talking about when the word "minigame" is used? There's no need to define what it is and is not because everyone here has played enough games that they more than likely know.

It's not an issue of whether full games have more of a chance of winning...it's that they're not minigames. And it's called a minigame comp.


I'm probably going to lock this shortly because it's really not going anywhere.
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QUOTE (Gyiyg Strikes Back! @ Jul 13 2006, 10:45 PM)
Because unless somebody writes a set of rules for the minigame competition complete chaos will ensue.

Exactly, which was the point of this topic, and since everyone was being ignorant, we ignored that.
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I'm sorry, I don't consider a minigame collection to be a full game by any means.

You guys are just making this about quantity now. Quality isn't even a factor anymore?


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QUOTE (Gyiyg Strikes Back! @ Jul 13 2006, 10:45 PM)
Because unless somebody writes a set of rules for the minigame competition complete chaos will ensue.

What would you go by then?


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Honestly if I stumbled onto this topic as a new user and found all of us arguing about bogging the minigame competition down with rules, I don't think I'd ever enter one.


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Okay, I'll say it again. THE TOPIC IS SO WE CAN ESTABLISH RULES FOR THE NEXT MINIGAME COMPETITION SO WE DON'T GET INTO STUPID FIGHTS LIKE THIS. Can you all just stop already and get back on track? The topic is going to get locked if you can't.
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QUOTE (Klobber @ Jul 13 2006, 10:46 PM)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is a minigame.

Super Mario World is a minigame.

Super Mario Epic is a minigame.

If you see anything wrong with the above statements, you can tell the difference between a "full" game and a minigame :P

Why is this so complicated it should be common sense ;_; Does anyone here honestly NOT know what we are talking about when the word "minigame" is used? There's no need to define what it is and is not because everyone here has played enough games that they more than likely know.

It's not an issue of whether full games have more of a chance of winning...it's that they're not minigames. And it's called a minigame comp.


I'm probably going to lock this shortly because it's really not going anywhere.

Personally I think it was just named Minigame because that's what most people would have time for. You keep saying obvious things and we (or at least me) agree with them. But I don't think you should judge a compo just by the name.


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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 13 2006, 10:48 PM)
Okay, I'll say it again. THE TOPIC IS SO WE CAN ESTABLISH RULES FOR THE NEXT MINIGAME COMPETITION SO WE DON'T GET INTO STUPID FIGHTS LIKE THIS. Can you all just stop already and get back on track? The topic is going to get locked if you can't.

Okay, yeah, let's drop the discussion of full games/minigames for now and concentrate on rules we CAN agree on, like the time limits and such.
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 13 2006, 10:48 PM)
Okay, I'll say it again. THE TOPIC IS SO WE CAN ESTABLISH RULES FOR THE NEXT MINIGAME COMPETITION SO WE DON'T GET INTO STUPID FIGHTS LIKE THIS. Can you all just stop already and get back on track? The topic is going to get locked if you can't.

Yes but things like this are needed to come to a agreement. You have to see each other's sides.


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QUOTE (Mario Gamer @ Jul 13 2006, 10:49 PM)
Personally I think it was just named Minigame because that's what most people would have time for. You keep saying obvious things and we (or at least me) agree with them. But I don't think you should judge a compo just by the name.

Except maybe you should, because that's what it is. Sprite competition isn't a drawing competition, is it? The point is minigames, not full games. There, done.
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As much as I wanted any game to be entered, I'm beginning to sway more towards the "mini" games only idea. Not only woill more people seemingly accept it, it's just a logical idea. The argument for long games are that if you can create it in the short time, it's legit, although it probably won't happen. Well, if we make a rule against it, then it won't happen for certain, and we won't have to wrry about it.

I really want the next comp to start =(


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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 13 2006, 10:50 PM)
Except maybe you should, because that's what it is. Sprite competition isn't a drawing competition, is it? The point is minigames, not full games. There, done.

Ah but a drawing/spriting (dunno which one anymore) compo includes Pixel Art. But that's not in the name. Hmmm


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