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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 07:55 AM
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Oh, alright, I get what emo is smile.gif

And I still disagree with the adoption part. I mean...

"That's my dad, and that's.... also my dad...

No friends D=


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Sep 13 2006, 06:55 AM)
No friends D=

Those kinds of friends are horrible friends to begin with.

There are kids who have two fathers because their mom and biological father split up too.


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 08:16 AM
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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 08:18 AM
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QUOTE (SonicProject @ Sep 13 2006, 03:14 PM)
Those kinds of friends are horrible friends to begin with.

There are kids who have two fathers because their mom and biological father split up too.

But they'll still have a mother somewhere (AND they know she exists).
And usually they get to visit their biologically mother often.


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Sep 13 2006, 07:18 AM)
But they'll still have a mother somewhere (AND they know she exists).
And usually they get to visit their biologically mother often.

Why on earth are you blaming gay parents for that?

Why not the parents who put them up for adoption, huh? There's a few cases where the parents died but it's mostly unwanted baggage and not being able to afford taking care of a child. Which is their fault anyway. If they couldn't afford or didn't want the kid they should've done something to prevent it. Condoms, birth control, etc.

But don't blame adoptive parents for it.


At least they'll know they're loved. Regardless of who it is.

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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE (OSM @ Sep 13 2006, 01:16 PM)
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QUOTE (SonicProject @ Sep 13 2006, 03:26 PM)
Why on earth are you blaming gay parents for that?

Why not the parents who put them up for adoption, huh? There's a few cases where the parents died but it's mostly unwanted baggage and not being able to afford taking care of a child. Which is their fault anyway. If they couldn't afford or didn't want the kid they should've done something to prevent it. Condoms, birth control, etc.

But don't blame adoptive parents for it.


At least they'll know they're loved. Regardless of who it is.

I didn't point at gays specificly about the adopting thing.

And I totally agree with you about the adoption part.


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (SonicProject @ Sep 13 2006, 06:14 AM)
Those kinds of friends are horrible friends to begin with.

Elementary school.


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Sep 13 2006, 06:27 AM)
Gay rights are supposed to be as anyone's rights, but they're actually not.
I've seen throughout history gay people were accused, burned or bullied alot.

My view is that gay rights should be as any other right, but I don't think they should be allowed to get children though, that'd just confuse the damn child.

I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to adopt children. And before anybody brings up any supposed research that says kids grow up better when they have a mother and a father, I'd like to bring up the number of kids who grow up with a single parent and turn out fine (or, perhaps more importantly, the fact that the orphanages in this country are overrun with kids that straight couples aren't adopting; it'd be hard to argue that a child would be better living in an orphanage until he was an adult than with gay or lesbian parents who love him).


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 11:26 AM
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I don't think any gay people actually do that... Being gay isn't really a choice or something you just decide to do (Unless you're a poser with no shame), and I doubt any amount of convincing will get someone to do it.

Unless a child is taught that actions that could be considered gay (Kissing other boys, of course) are the socially accepted way to act (I'm not being homophobic, I'm just saying that nowadays homosexuality is still considered an oddity...) when they are very young an impressionable, I don't think you can convince someone to be gay. If a gay couple teach their child what it means to be heterosexual and homosexual, then I have no problem with it.


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 11:38 AM
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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 11:53 AM
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I don't see why gay people shouldn't be allowed to adopt... I mean, just because the parents are gay doesn't mean the kids will grow up to be gay as well. And I hate it when people lump in homosexuals with pedophiles and child molestors... many straight men and women are pedophiles and child molestors. My boyfriend and I do plan on adopting children someday and I don't think it is right to deny us that right just because we are gay. See, what it all roots down to is religious intolerance, old style conservatism, and fear of anything different or out of the ordinary. I challenge anybody here to give me a good solid, PROVEN reason why us gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry, adopt kids, and raise families like the rest if you.

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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Lava Piranha @ Sep 13 2006, 06:53 PM)
I don't see why gay people shouldn't be allowed to adopt... I mean, just because the parents are gay doesn't mean the kids will grow up to be gay as well. And I hate it when people lump in homosexuals with pedophiles and child molestors... many straight men and women are pedophiles and child molestors. My boyfriend and I do plan on adopting children someday and I don't think it is right to deny us that right just because we are gay. See, what it all roots down to is religious intolerance, old style conservatism, and fear of anything different or out of the ordinary. I challenge anybody here to give me a good solid, PROVEN reason why us gay people shouldn't be allowed to marry, adopt kids, and raise families like the rest if you.

I think the part to marry is a bit too much, but I basically agree with everything.

(REASON FOR GAYS NOT TO MARRY: The church won't accept it)


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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 01:01 PM
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The reason gay marriage shouldn't exist is because marriage shouldn't exist; does it even serve any purpose now besides what people grant it?
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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 01:04 PM
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Marriage usually ends in divorce anyway.


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QUOTE (SonicProject @ Sep 13 2006, 11:04 AM)
Marriage usually ends in divorce anyway.

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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (Cutman @ Sep 13 2006, 08:00 AM)
The only REAL problem I have is bi's who go bi for the fun of it. For instance, emos. Emo guys are all Bi. They kiss other guys because (some)girls love it. Funny how their emo ways suddenly change to casual when they're indoors.

Yes, and the fact that they flaunt it (just so they look unique) pisses me off. There's also the fact that they complain about straight people saying "oh hey that chick's hot", then later on, the bisexual goes "HAHAHA I LOVE THE **** PS I LOVE THE **** HAHAHHshfh ps i love the ****"


oh yeah and what is up with people forcing you to be bisexual/gay so that you're "comfortable with your sexuality"

that's totally bogus!

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Posted: Sep 13 2006, 01:07 PM
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How is it we seem so concerned with gay rights like women are even treated fairly.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/732/732509p1.html

Even gaming media can't write a story without enforcing gender roles.


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QUOTE (MechaBowser @ Sep 13 2006, 12:00 PM)
(REASON FOR GAYS NOT TO MARRY: The church won't accept it)

The church won't accept gays period. And since marriage is a religious ceremony, I guess you have a point.

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Gays shouldn't be allowed...


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