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Posted: Nov 15 2006, 10:44 PM
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At least provide some examples why you think [console]>[console]>[console].
(like Grant did)

For me, I prefer the Wii over 360 because There's more games that interest me on it, plus I think the Wii-mote will be fun to use.
Most the games on the 360 I want are already on PC. But Still, It'd be nice to have one.

PS3.... Well, automatic NO because of price tag. The only game that interests me is MGS4, but because of all the negative news I've been hearing from Sony, well Just forget it.

Yeah, seems like they rushed the PS3.

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Posted: Nov 15 2006, 10:50 PM
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Yeah, actually the Sonic game (the only game on the 360 that I'm really interested in) will be coming out for PC anyway. I'm just wondering if the PC version will be inferior in graphics and gameplay speed to the 360 version.

But now that I think about it, one of my friends says he'll be getting a 360 anyway (and probably a Wii too), and he'll let me play his 360 if I ask him, I'm sure. smile.gif

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Posted: Nov 15 2006, 11:00 PM
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The graphics should be the same or maybe better if you have a good graphics card, and if you buy a 360 controler that's compatable with your computer then it's basically the same game but you can mod it.


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Posted: Nov 15 2006, 11:17 PM
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Time for my comparisons then since everyone is doing theirs...

360 > Wii > PS3

Only because the 360 has an infinitely better online system than the Wii does. Nintendo is still just geting their feet wet, and they haven't had time to refine the Marketplace/online play/profiles like Microsoft has. That, and the 360 has a ton more processing power (meaning more complicated games, meaning that maybe the new version of HL2 for 360 won't suck!).
When it comes down to it, the thing that makes the Wii really shine is the controller, but if Steel Batallion is an example, you can easily just bundle a bizarre new controller with a game and call it a day. With that out of the way, the Wii doesn't have much more stuff to offer than the 360.

And the PS3 just needs to sink back into the slime pit with the Lynx and the 3DO.


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Posted: Nov 15 2006, 11:26 PM
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Looks like Sony is going to be out of the VG Hardware Market.


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Posted: Nov 15 2006, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE (Arima @ Nov 15 2006, 11:26 PM)
Looks like Sony is going to be out of the VG Hardware Market.

I highly doubt that.


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Posted: Nov 15 2006, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (Mug @ Nov 16 2006, 04:52 AM)
I highly doubt that.

Not a bad bet. They're already out of practically every other market.

Anyway I hope MGS4 is released on the 360.

I also hope the Core 360 is sold on Amazon for $100, because I'm not driving to Ohio to buy the $300 premium.


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Posted: Nov 16 2006, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (Kaepora Of Rhye @ Nov 15 2006, 11:56 PM)
Not a bad bet. They're already out of practically every other market.

Anyway I hope MGS4 is released on the 360.

I also hope the Core 360 is sold on Amazon for $100, because I'm not driving to Ohio to buy the $300 premium.

Eh, I know they're doing pretty bad right now, but something tells me they won't be out of the VG market just yet. That's not really based on anything though, just an inner feeling. But yeah, regardless of what happens, it'll be a win-win situation? Less consoles to get. :-D


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Posted: Nov 16 2006, 10:25 AM
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Posted: Nov 16 2006, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE (ShadowMan @ Nov 15 2006, 10:17 PM)
Time for my comparisons then since everyone is doing theirs...

360 > Wii > PS3

Only because the 360 has an infinitely better online system than the Wii does.

Agreed,

But I rely on PC gaming for online play so.. yeah.

You make a good point though.


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Posted: Nov 16 2006, 01:53 PM
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I thought you meant MORAL SUPPORT...
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Infinitely better except for one key difference.

Subscription fees. unsure.gif

Plus I hate how EA is charging for cheat code content that's available for free on other consoles. I wonder if Nintendo will let them pull the same crap off on the Wii.


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Posted: Nov 16 2006, 03:08 PM
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Microsoft and Sony are both losing a lot of money on their gaming divisions right now, any decision for them to stop producing video game consoles would be a decision for the better financial stability of the company. That said, Microsoft has far larger and more reliable sources of income in other areas. Sony on the other hand, is in a lot of trouble, they've lost a lot of money; and what used to be their primary in-take (games), is costing them a lot. They lose money on every PSP sold, every PS3 sold; and this is just the beginning. With their profits down so low, and the cost of launching such an expensive console during the crucial Christmas season, it is not unheard of that Sony would simply stop trying to compete in the video game market.

That said, a withdrawal like that is not very common of a Japanese business, and a concession outright isnt' as likely as a refocusing of their efforts.

Of course, contrary to a lot of internet hype about Nintendo being doomed, and Wii being a last ditch effort; Nintendo is sitting on a cash bank that's as cushy as Microsoft's. So Microsoft and Nintendo are without a doubt in this for the long haul; but if the PS3 is a full out flop, Sony might have to think about pulling the plug, sure.

As for Nintendo's online plans, while they publicly state companies can charge for games; I get the impression that there is heavy internal pressure (perhaps just from sales of games like Mario Kart DS and Animal Crossing) to keep your online games free. The connection service doesn't cost anything for the 3rd parties to use, it's only if they were running their own game servers that they'd be charging anything. Because yes, as it now stands bandwidth isn't that easy or cheap to come by; and so it's the easy way out to alienate the majority of people, sell 200,000-400,000 copies and work on keeping a diehard fanbase of subscribers in a game like Phantasy Star Universe, Final Fantasy XI, etc.

EDIT: And to throw my hat into a system hierarchy:

Wii > 360 > PS3

Wii is something new, I'm almost 22 years old and the trends in 3D games are obvious by now. In some cases companies have completely abandoned the idea of making a good 2D game based on anything because if it's a license, they figure the brand will carry itself. And if it isn't, they don't risk it because they figure it's doomed. Wii forces innovation, this control mechanism requires movement; and so much can be done with it in so many genres. Perhaps it's only because of the success of the DS, or a long time affiliation with Nintendo... but obviously developers and gamers alike believe in this console because of what it can bring that's fresh and new. As well as classic and old. It's cheaper, it's got the best line-up (both launch and looking forward), and free online game play.

The 360, I think represents what it would look like if we just kept making 'new' consoles with better hardware. It's a system made by a major American company that pulls all the support it can from every direction to get the newest and best looking games from every major franchise of the past five years. It's not forward thinking, but it is prettier, and more is possible. What makes it exciting is online infrastructure, and the possibility of using hardware power for really new experiences in games, instead of just rendering folds of the lips on individual player models. It is however, heavily hampered by Sony's presence in Japan. If the PS3 is a big hit, the 360's potential is limited because...

The PS3 and the 360 are not very different at all. They're new consoles, they have a feature list that reads akin to some sort of technological swiss army knife. They're very expensive tech toys that boast very few new games. They appeal to a mainstream consumer that wants a $7000 TV to have the best looking content pumping through it. The difference is that PS3 isn't compatible with many TVs in the same way the 360 is, it costs more, has fewer interesting games (potential failure in Japan or not Blue Dragon is a damn good reason to get a 360), and depends purely on a name brand to carry itself moving forward. With PS3 you're supposed to be getting best of both worlds: a motion sensor controller (but it's retarded, broken, PC joypad motion sensing)and a robust online experience (it's totally unproven, and thus far seems broken). There aren't any brands that follow Sony that people absolutely need; as it may stand now, a lot of Japanese companies don't know where they should place their stake... while there may be some early efforts to pull gamers to PS3, it's undeniable that developers look at the 360's sales in Japan and think "you know what, things really can get worse than they are". The PS3's time is very limited to prove that it can move systems. If it fails, within a year's time you'll see a complete momentum shift to develop for the Wii and 360 (but historically, very few Japanese that haven't been given money will flee to Microsoft).

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Wow, the thing hasn't even been out for a week yet and this stuff is happening? That's got a be a world record.

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