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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 12:55 AM
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Not seeing anything tonight.

Really, I don't have a problem with soldiers in being cheap (although I'm sure someone could prove me wrong), I just hate them because it prolongs the match with the same guy playing, and so it takes away game time for everyone else.


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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 09:31 AM
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Well you guys pretty much layed them all down:

- Prolongs the game, usually with just the reinforced players in the game
- Often these respawns amount to completely altering that particular game's power struggle, it doesn't matter what you're doing, if you have two lives left and you're not near the objective, most every map (and yes, in particular our favorite Lunar Base) will put you right where you need to be, and within 6 seconds of a primary frag to the spine, which, due to knockdown and not so much a killing blow; is guaranteed to stop any generator hacking.
- As far as the life thing goes; definitely a Jedi balance issue, any decent soldier with -one- grenade can **** up and kill a decent jedi. Even when crouching to absorb damage this is like 25% of Jedi health, and since most people don't duck through the explosions to absorb the damage, they'll fall down, and be shot and killed (see Mugen's grenade/sniper trick). Beyond that, it takes a jedi one swing from just about any stance to kill the soldier; but this requires being close to them, and a smart soldier knows he can just walk backwards, and never be worried until that jedi is right on him, then just before the saber is within range, out goes the grenade; if you die, no problem, you respawn and finish the job, you do get three tries after all.
- The reinforcement cheapness is not limited to the soldiers either, Clonetroopers and other reinforcement enabled classes are probably even more gamebreaking, especially considering how much more easily these classes can destroy mission objectives with their rapid fire weapons.


The thing about it is that the only arguments for reinforcements are that player models are forced in MBII mode, so you can't play your favorite Battle Droid without being doomed to being a one life wonder, and while you have access to an E11 and a pistol, this is for the most part all the class has going for it. And as I'm sure you noticed, the choice of having three lives is the only thing the class has going for it. It is predominately a support class, which cannot stand well on its own against anyone that knows how to play; and that is why I say it has no place in any MBII game, not just our private servers, because I've seen 32 player games come down (round after round after round) to six or seven people, vs. one soldier playing possum with a grenade until the timer runs out or they finally find his stupid ass.

Tonight would be cool to play though; maybe

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Posted: Jun 8 2007, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (Nightwing @ Jun 8 2007, 07:31 AM)
Tonight would be cool to play though; maybe

I hope so. Yesterday I had to go to the dreaded public servers to subdue my cravings.
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Posted: Jun 9 2007, 01:43 AM
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*hits 8 different keys that all go to the same bind*
*continues to do so even during play*
*hits you with a =-:(lol):-=*

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Posted: Jun 9 2007, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE (Nightwing @ Jun 8 2007, 11:43 PM)
*hits 8 different keys that all go to the same bind*
*continues to do so even during play*
*hits you with a =-:(lol):-=*

I wish I knew who was who in that last game. Now I don't even know who was trying to antagonize me.

Why does everyone feel the need to change their ingame names to something different every few rounds?
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Posted: Jun 9 2007, 03:42 AM
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Posted: Jun 9 2007, 04:18 AM
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I thought you meant MORAL SUPPORT...
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QUOTE (Press Start @ Jun 8 2007, 12:55 AM)
Really, I don't have a problem with soldiers in being cheap (although I'm sure someone could prove me wrong), I just hate them because it prolongs the match with the same guy playing, and so it takes away game time for everyone else.

Yeah, that's my only issue with them.

Movie Battles needs to take a page from SEALs and add a little bit of limbo Pong, Galaga, or at least something interesting to mess around with. It'd be funny if you could play "tricky ghost" a la Scarey Game 2 and bring down things like those lights in Korriban or smash windows from spectator mode.


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Posted: Jun 9 2007, 05:08 AM
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Posted: Jun 9 2007, 09:12 PM
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Posted: Jun 9 2007, 10:53 PM
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I KNEW MY BROTHER HAD JEDI ACADEMY!

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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 02:12 AM
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I KNEW MY BROTHER HAD JEDI ACADEMY!

put me on the MBII list Mugen.

Sweet, and with B19 things just got a whole lot better.

Although I still don't get the "Jesus" glitch.


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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 06:54 AM
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Now that was some damn good fun.


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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 06:13 PM
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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 06:15 PM
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I scoff at your screenshot and raise you a video!

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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 06:20 PM
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damn encoding

also I'm not trying to be rude/demanding/jerk or anything, but is there a chance that we could play about an hour earlier every once in a while?
Usually we play at 10:00 PM Central Time, which is fine and all but I'm guessing you guys play for 2 hours at the minimum, and I have to sleep at 11:00PM

Maybe start at 9:00 PM central tonight?

(I'll still be ok with starting at 10:00 pm though)

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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE (Mario Dragmire @ Jun 10 2007, 06:20 PM)
damn encoding

also I'm not trying to be rude/demanding/jerk or anything, but is there a chance that we could play about an hour earlier every once in a while?
Usually we play at 10:00 PM Central Time, which is fine and all but I'm guessing you guys play for 2 hours at the minimum, and I have to sleep at 11:00PM

Maybe start at 9:00 PM central tonight?

(I'll still be ok with starting at 10:00 pm though)

We only start late on the weekends because of Nightwing's job. Otherwise it's very possible that we can start earlier (and we have).


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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 06:36 PM
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ARGH still encoding; and yeah we can play earlier, but Sat/Sun I won't be there so that means you have to hound Mugen (who is immune to your pleas!!)


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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE (CloakBass @ Jun 10 2007, 05:15 PM)
I scoff at your screenshot and raise you a video!

MOVIE BATTLES II VIDEO OF SHAME

Have I just witnessed unsurpassed greatness?!


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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 07:11 PM
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Oh sweet, it's done encoding


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Posted: Jun 10 2007, 07:13 PM
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i appear to have gotten the kinks out of b19, good to go!


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