Yoyogames site is out, for gamemaker users

Well, it's finally here, a place to play make and share games! Or so they say, I think its just a place for people to mass upload poorly made games, but you do find some good ones every once in awhile

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8:04 this morning is old?

Mario's pizza shop is on that site so I guess the whole no fangame thing is a lie.

There's like 5 mario fangames on the site, and you're right, that is a relief.

What the? Mario games on the site? I wonder if they'll be taken down or something....

EDIT: Type in "Mario" in the "Find Games" box.

This post has been edited by Grant on Apr 28 2007, 10:46 AM

I know, those were on the site when it first came out, meaning, yoyogames was the one who put them on... don't know what this means

Well, if fangames really aren't disallowed... then I just wasted a lot of time converting Super Mario 3D back to GM6.1 format (which I just finished doing last night).

not really, 'cause all gm7 things are yoyogames practically, so unless you want your baby eaten, I wouldn't think the same.

This post has been edited by Derrike G. on Apr 28 2007, 11:04 AM

jesus christ guys

GM7's EULA never specifically disallowed fangames

Actually, I'm pretty sure it did. I'd have to check, but didn't it say something about not using other people's intellectual property? That's what a fangame is. I might be wrong on that, though.

Honestly, I don't think that they disallowed fangames because they don't want people making fangames. Otherwise, GM 6.1 would've done that. I think it's because they technically (according to my understanding of the EULA) own what you make on GM 7, so if a company decided to sue someone, it would be them.

I'm no lawyer, but I think that the no-fangame section is in there so that if someone does go to sue them, they'd be able to say that because it violates their EULA, it breaches the contract and doesn't belong to them. So they aren't trying to limit what you make so much as protect themselves (though I still don't like the "We own what you create" section).

At least, that's what I think, but that's not based off of anything I've heard (or read) YoYo Games say, so I could be entirely wrong.

That makes a lot of sense, actually.

You sure think out your posts well.

(If this sounds like sarcasm, it isn't.)

It seems that may be the reason, but if they don't own them, why do they post them on their web-site?

That'd be dumb, if they only accept games made with GM7.

Does that mean the games which you made with Game Maker 7 will be put up there?

Only if you submit them.

Since I don't use GM7, I'm not sure about this, but isn't the update process automatic? If it was, and the games don't have to be approved by them, that would probably be a defense, as they can't regulate everything.

If not, then I'm not sure. Maybe that's not the reason, it just seemed like that to me.

Also, thanks, Grant.

I'm really loathing YoYo games right now...

I went through a period of time where I was angry at them, too, but I've thought about it, and though they're doing something that I think is immoral, they're not doing it illegally or anything.

I'm not going to recommend Game Maker 7 to anyone unless I find out that the EULA has been revamped to remove the parts I think are wrong, but there are a lot of other businesses that do the same sort of thing (I'm pretty sure that Wal-Mart tried (but failed, I think) to sue the person who came up with the yellow smily face a while ago, so that they could trademark it, and just about every pharmacy chain made copies of Airborne after the inventor didn't patent it), and if we focus on hating them, it's only a waste of our own time.

But, to stay on topic, even though it bothers me that people are unwittingly giving up their designs to YoYo Games, it's nice to have an easy list of games to see, instead of having to navigate the forums. And hey, some of them are made with GM6!

Oh, and by the way, I looked over YoYo Games's website's terms and conditions, and they don't sound too bad, as long as I'm understanding them correctly.

If you type "Mario" in the search box, it gives you two rows of games made by Hello =)
The bunch of Mario fangames makes me laugh about all of you who started to convert GM7 games to GM6 =)
Well, happy I am now. I hope they will soon replace their EULA with one that is clearer and if not, I don't think they'll sue you for making fangames, just like Gorgoo said.