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Posted: May 29 2007, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE (Coelacanthus @ May 28 2007, 09:47 PM)
And as for evolution, it's just a theory. A THEORY. There's actually no viable proof to it. Well, about as much proof as there is about Bigfoot being real.

A) There's loads of viable proof. You've obviously not looked.
B) The bigfoot thing is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. This is not a hyperbole.


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Posted: May 29 2007, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE (Coelacanthus @ May 28 2007, 06:53 PM)
Parrots are incredibly dumb animals, they can just mimic sounds. Mockingbirds can do it too, but to a lesser extent. As for the other ones, they can "seem" to be smart with proper training, when actually they just have simple problem solving skills. But they still run on instinct.

haha, "humans" go through training too, So that must make us incredibly dumb as well.


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QUOTE (Rath @ May 28 2007, 10:38 PM)
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Also, I mainly posted because Coelacanthus was implying that humans did not use instinct, and that humans are above using instinct...

Whoops, did it sound that way? I mean animals rely ONLY on instinct and basic problem solving skills to survive, whereas we use an advanced sense of thought, feelings, thinking ect. that I find hard to believe just "happened". Even if you do believe in evolution and not creationism, why would you want to? Why believe the human race was just a random, accidental merging of some basic proteins and all of civilization is founded on two puddles of goo? Why?


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QUOTE (Coelacanthus @ May 29 2007, 09:46 AM)
Even if you do believe in evolution and not creationism, why would you want to? Why believe the human race was just a random, accidental merging of some basic proteins and all of civilization is founded on two puddles of goo? Why?

because that makes a hell of a lot more sense to me than men being made from sand/dust/whatever and women being made from ribs... by something that is not tangible in any way


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Hey guys. Evolution is a theory and theres big gaps in it! But its still logical!


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QUOTE (Bungalo @ May 29 2007, 11:17 AM)
Hey guys. Evolution is a theory and theres big gaps in it! But its still logical!

i haven't seen any evidence for creationism


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Ah, I heard of that museum, goin' to go sometime soon (I don't really know when).

I have little to say concerning stuff. So bascally, I believe what I believe and you belive what you believe. It's so complicated and diverse with many gaps and contradictions that arguing is rather pointless, especially when opinions are involved.


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I blame the parents of people who believe in creationism


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Posted: May 29 2007, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowMan @ May 29 2007, 12:38 AM)
It'll all work out in the end because the people who don't believe in evolution will find themselves replaced with smarter, fitter people.

With people smarter because they believe in it, since non-evolutionists have lower intelligence?

...OK.


Also I don't understand how anyone can consider it likely for any further evolution to occur. Advantageous mutations, or at least ones of any real importance, almost never happen, and even assuming that evolution did occur, it could quite easily happen that humans wouldn't undergo any more positive evolving. No matter how repugnant some may find this analogy, large-scale evolution is still comparable in statistical terms to a monkey striking random keys on a keyboard and spelling out the works of Shakespeare. Expecting any more major evolution to occur is like expecting the monkey to type even more literature after it's done with Shakespeare.

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How about this; loads of people are immune to a disease that doesn't exist yet. Disease occurs, half the population die.

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QUOTE (Coelacanthus @ May 29 2007, 10:46 AM)
Whoops, did it sound that way? I mean animals rely ONLY on instinct and basic problem solving skills to survive, whereas we use an advanced sense of thought, feelings, thinking ect. that I find hard to believe just "happened". Even if you do believe in evolution and not creationism, why would you want to? Why believe the human race was just a random, accidental merging of some basic proteins and all of civilization is founded on two puddles of goo? Why?

Goddamn you piss me off so ****ing much.

What, no other animals can think? No, you're ****ing retarded for thinking that. They can think perfectly fine, but on the same level as us? No. Do they really need to? No.

Animals don't have feelings? They can't think? What the **** are you talking about? Do you mean to imply that humans are the only animals that can feel pain, and think about problems? No.

By your (lack of) logic, humans rely entirely on our so called "advanced thought" to get us through life. But hey, where do the problem solving abilities of animals come from? Oh gee, I don't know, MAYBE BECAUSE THEY CAN THINK AS WELL? (Just not exactly on the same "advanced level" as us.)

Why wouldn't you want to know where humans originated? Well gee, I guess if you wanted to stay ignorant and in the dark (hey, just like those animals that don't think, and thus don't care about why they exist!) about your origins, be my guest.

And if you're going to support Creationism, at least attempt to back it up like Grant is, and not by just saying "LOL WHO CARES", because clearly you're the only one that doesn't.


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I went to this youth group a while back, and we had a special guest speaker. She told us all this stuff that the article mentions, and she believed it. She was trying to prove evolution to be invalid. And I kid you not, SHE SAID DRAGONS REALLY EXISTED ONCE and protected castles back in the times of lore. Also, they could breathe fire. She backed this statement up by showing pictures of fire breathing lizards that are alive today in china.

Then i left laughing.

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QUOTE (Hippoman @ May 29 2007, 02:14 PM)
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Can some Creationist plx explain this picture to me?

clearly, satan created this to mislead us from god's truth


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QUOTE (Xgoff @ May 29 2007, 01:19 PM)
i haven't seen any evidence for creationism

Except Existence.


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QUOTE (Hippoman @ May 29 2007, 04:14 PM)
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Can some Creationist plx explain this picture to me?

God was high one day and made these things
Then he said "What was I thinking?" and killed them all

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Why do I keep looking in these topics? I was hoping what I said in my first post wouldn't happen but lolmfgg


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QUOTE (Parakarry @ May 29 2007, 04:54 PM)
God was high one day and made these things
Then he said "What was I thinking?" and killed them all

Everything flawed was made when the Flying Spaghetti Monster was drunken with alchohol.

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I believe evolution is gods creation.

No one ever said that god couldn't make living things evolve.


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QUOTE (Bungalo @ May 29 2007, 02:16 PM)
Except Existence.

ok

which is quite easily explained through scientific means so i don't see where you're going with that example


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