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> Sonic's Many Characters, What is wrong with it?
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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 03:41 PM
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I know that not all Sonic fans think this way, but it seems to me (especially with the Sonic RPG being announced) that a lot of them dislike it every time Sega introduces a new character to the Sonic series. I don't want to start an argument, but I'm really curious as to why this is, when games like Mario add new characters to practically every game now that has a storyline. Luigi's Mansion had E. Gadd and (I think) King Boo, Sunshine had the Piantas, and every Mario RPG included an entire new cast of characters, many of whom never appeared in another game.

I just don't see how this is a problem in Sonic games. Maybe it's that this began happening in the newer games, when the quality started to drop, so people associate it with that, but I'm not sure.

So, what do you think? I know a lot of people feel strongly about new characters in Sonic games, and I really don't want to start an argument, but this is something that I've wondered about for a while.

(And by the way, this isn't aimed at anyone. I know that a lot of people have that opinion.)
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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 03:49 PM
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They tend to be stupid. Also, we want old characters brought back, not new ones. (Mighty, anyone?) The thing is, Cream is stupid, Big is annoying, and Elise kissed Sonic, and AMY DID NOT DO ANYTHING.

SHE JUST STOOD THERE.

AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING


Silver was kinda cool, I just didn't like that he was a total rip off of Trunks. (Not completely, but you know)

But yeah, it's not that we don't want new characters, the new characters just suck.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 03:56 PM
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Because Mario's selection of characters all suit a purpose, whereas Sonic's are put in to add sales, and are often of poorer quality, given crappy backstories and bad voice acting. There's also hentai of them all before a game is even released.

The major difference here is that Mario's main characters are always... main characters. Sonic's main characters are always randomly spawned animals that have befriended Sonic for some stupid reason and are gone by the next game. They're not one-off bosses or anything either, they're fully established playable characters most of the time.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 04:25 PM
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Mario's characters tend to be the main, serve a purpose and unusally have a game of there own.

Sonics characters are minor, serve little purpose, generally are annoying, and only serve to be a playable character.

SEGA should of just stayed with using Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Eggman for all the games and included a new cast character every 2 years.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 05:41 PM
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They're just lame and unimaginative. And bland. I could personally go on without ever seeing Big, Gamma, Omega, Cream, Vanilla, Blaze, Emerl, Nega Robotnik, Silver, etc. ever again. Hell, to me, even Amy, Shadow and Rouge are pushing it.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 05:50 PM
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Personally they should just bring back the old characters: Mighty for example. If one of their old characters doesn't "fit" the plot/lack of plot they don't change to plot to add them in. They make a new character that after that game you are lucky to even hear their name even mentioned by Sega.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE (Black Squirrel @ Jun 22 2007, 03:56 PM)
There's also hentai of them all before a game is even released...

Mario is to highly respected for hentai.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:02 PM
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The thing is, they tend to design characters based on gameplay and not plot, thus they end up being empty, meaningless shells.

BTW, AMY is NOT a recently added character, stop referring to her as such.

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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:26 PM
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Also Nintendo listens to fans when it comes to games. Does Sega? If they did we'd have Mighty in a game by now.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jun 22 2007, 06:26 PM)
Also Nintendo listens to fans when it comes to games. Does Sega? If they did we'd have Mighty in a game by now.

The thing is that one of the creators left and took quite a few copyrights with him. Mighty's was one of them.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (Madam Ki @ Jun 22 2007, 05:29 PM)
The thing is that one of the creators left and took quite a few copyrights with him. Mighty's was one of them.

Really? I never knew that. Cool to know, but sad for the fans.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jun 22 2007, 06:34 PM)
Really? I never knew that. Cool to know, but sad for the fans.

Yeah.

I think the common excuse to keep it canon was "He was shot by Fang".


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (Madam Ki @ Jun 22 2007, 05:35 PM)
Yeah.

I think the common excuse to keep it canon was "He was shot by Fang".

Bring back Fang please Sega.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:42 PM
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The horrible mistake Nintendo made twice with Waluigi and Bowser Jr, Sega does ten fold with Sonic.
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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jun 22 2007, 06:26 PM)
Also Nintendo listens to fans when it comes to games. Does Sega? If they did we'd have Mighty in a game by now.

If they did we'd have Sally too. think about that one.
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QUOTE (Glaber @ Jun 22 2007, 06:45 PM)
If they did we'd have Sally too. think about that one.

Actually, more people DON'T like Sally than do, thanks to Archie comics.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 06:52 PM
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Either way either side would have to be vocal enough to make any difference. Also It's SEGA's fault Sally exists in the first place.

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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jun 22 2007, 03:26 PM)
Also Nintendo listens to fans when it comes to games. Does Sega? If they did we'd have Mighty in a game by now.

What do you think Sega was thinking when they made Shadow? Nothing. The 10-year olds were thinking for them.


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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 07:53 PM
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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jun 22 2007, 11:26 PM)
Also Nintendo listens to fans when it comes to games. Does Sega? If they did we'd have Mighty in a game by now.

They brought us back the Chaotix, but Mighty would be cool though. And to be honest, only 2 of the newer characters I've really liked, those being Blaze and Silver. Blaze because she was actually original, had a decent backstory and character design and was fun to play as (Even in Sonic 06, suprisingly), and Silver because he was the only character in Sonic 06 who's gameplay felt finished, that and he had a cool theme song.


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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jun 22 2007, 06:26 PM)
Also Nintendo listens to fans when it comes to games. Does Sega? If they did we'd have Mighty in a game by now.

If Nintendo ever listened to the fans it was only in the Smash bros. games.

and I totally forgot that Shadow the Hedgehog and the Nights Wii wern't orginated as a survey.


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