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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:05 PM
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Copied from the other topic for emphasis:

I also need to point out that the link with the U may be coincidental. While we feel that there is emphasis on U members to keep their passwords separate as a precaution, THE BEST SECURITY YOU CAN HAVE IS TO USE A STRONG PASSWORD OF NUMBERS AND LETTERS THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT A DICTIONARY WORD. This applies to every member on MFGG, whether you've registered on the U or not. Keeping a strong password will protect you even if our own user table were compromised.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:06 PM
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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:07 PM
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I'm still curious to know as to how Joey knew of the md5 hash of an U member, then compared it to the md5 hash of a MFGG member, and came to the conclusion that Mugen/Night was responsible for this.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:08 PM
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Ok, done.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (Rath @ Sep 16 2007, 12:07 AM)
I'm still curious to know as to how Joey knew of the md5 hash of an U member, then compared it to the md5 hash of a MFGG member, and came to the conclusion that Mugen/Night was responsible for this.

He didn't. He drew a much more simplistic conclusion. And he does not have access to anyone's hashes. Only U admins and MFGG admins have access to hashes. This is why you should always use different passwords on forums. However I will say that after Mugen phished MFGG passwords once, I would not put it past him to take advantage of the hash database at his disposal.

Edit: But I will go back and reiterate that this is not something I can prove, so I can only give you advice to defend yourself on multiple fronts.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:10 PM
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I can't see nightwing doing it..

A while back i could of seen mugen doing this, but not anymore.

So i don't think it was them.

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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:15 PM
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Also, as per request of Nightwing..
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Mugen and cutman are badmins. and before it was Mugen and Delmore.

And Every Official U member is a Moderator of the Den of Evil.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Sep 15 2007, 11:15 PM)
Mugen and cutman are badmins. and before it was Mugen and Delmore.

I see a pattern.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (Joey @ Sep 16 2007, 12:19 AM)
I see a pattern.

Delmore was kicked because of the whole not paying for pokémon incident..

And to keep two admins, Cutman was promoted.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Sep 16 2007, 12:21 AM)
Delmore was kicked because of the whole not paying for pokémon incident..

And to keep two admins, Cutman was promoted.

you forget the additional drama that delmore was causing


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QUOTE (Rath @ Sep 16 2007, 12:23 AM)
you forget the additional drama that delmore was causing

Yes.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:25 PM
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My password is a mixture of letter and numbers, nobody has ever figured it out and i've been using it for years.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:26 PM
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also, out of curiosity, exactly what happened to smoke's account?


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (Rath @ Sep 15 2007, 11:26 PM)
also, out of curiosity, exactly what happened to smoke's account?

First "froggy" was an account accessed by, according to post style, the same person who then later accessed Smoke's account, who then sent a few PMs. Apparently they also changed his password.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (Nova @ Sep 16 2007, 12:10 AM)
I can't see nightwing doing it..

Are you serious?

Even after his dupe school?


I'm not saying this was him, but he sure as hell was instrumental in sparking the dupe craze at the U, and after his dupe school richly deserved a permaban anyway IMO.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:29 PM
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QUOTE (Joey @ Sep 16 2007, 12:27 AM)
First "froggy" was an account accessed by, according to post style, the same person who then later accessed Smoke's account, who then sent a few PMs. Apparently they also changed his password.

and both froggy and the pass that smoke's was changed to was the same as froggy's?


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:31 PM
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QUOTE (Rath @ Sep 15 2007, 11:29 PM)
and both froggy and the pass that smoke's was changed to was the same as froggy's?

Can't tell. I'll let RII provide the details though, if he really wants to.


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:32 PM
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This should be pinned.
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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE (Nite Shadow @ Sep 16 2007, 12:32 AM)
This should be pinned.

a version of it is, look above you


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Posted: Sep 15 2007, 11:50 PM
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I'm willing to dismiss Nightwing of any involvement. At this point I also don't think the U is the problem.


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