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Parakarry

Posted: Oct 20 2004, 09:14 AM

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At this very moment we're reviewing mock-ups for new methods of displaying advertising on deviantART. Banner ads no longer pay very well at all, in fact it's despicable. For every 1000 banners viewed we make less than 5 cents. The reason is obvious: who wants to click away from the awesome art they're browsing, in order to go see some product or service they can buy? No one. Not to mention, who even looks at the ads way up there at the top? No one! So we need to rethink that, and the mock-ups I've seen look great.

We're also going to put square deviantART advertisements on user pages. NOT external ads, deviantART ads. We're going to give that ad inventory to premium print account holders, and some to our subscription service and other such things. The ads will ask visitors to your pages to buy prints accounts and subscriptions FOR YOU! But as usual, subscribers see no ads anywhere anyway.

So they're going to kill ads on the top. Neat...
But DA ads on userpages? How the HELL is this gonna look? And did it say that this only for prints holders and subs? I'm confused.

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buy prints accounts and subscriptions FOR YOU!

Silver Lining.

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Parakarry

Posted: Oct 20 2004, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE (Shadowgoten @ Oct 20 2004, 06:10 PM)

man why do we have to get this crap shoved down our throats every week?

Cause a healthy portion of the MFGGers go to DA

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE (Greliz @ Oct 20 2004, 03:16 PM)

HEY, HOW ABOUT THEY PUT ADS ON YOUR ARTWORK??? AWESOMEILICIOUS!~!!!!!!!!!

The body sucks, but I spent two hours working on the face.

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE (SuperMetalMario @ Oct 20 2004, 06:01 PM)

but I spent two hours working on the face.

Looks more like 1 min. IMO.

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 06:22 PM

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buy prints accounts and subscriptions FOR YOU!

Silver Lining.

Someone buy me a subscription when this thing is started.

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE (Shadowgoten @ Oct 20 2004, 06:10 PM)

man why do we have to get this crap shoved down our throats every week?

Cause a healthy portion of the MFGGers go to DA

yea but i really dont even bother with any of these features you post about. All i do is post pictures, and check out other peoples' drawings..that's about it.

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Nicholas Ainsworth	Posted: Oct 20 2004, 11:21 PM
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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE (Kitsune Yamato @ Oct 21 2004, 04:21 AM)

deviantART? Don't you mean communistART, PK?

I think I mean dontusemusicinflashanimationsART

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 20 2004, 11:22 PM)

QUOTE (Kitsune Yamato @ Oct 21 2004, 04:21 AM)

deviantART? Don't you mean communistART, PK?

I think I mean dontusemusicinflashanimationsART

Oooh, howabout, nouploadieyourgamebecauseassholeadminbanyou!ART?

I swear to God, that idiot Sycho, had like 21 of my games and demos deleted off DA. If anyone wants to flame him, his page is at http://sycho.deviantart.com/

What the hay? It's not like we're all gonna be at DA much longer as it stands. Soon they'll make us PAY for service!

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Posted: Oct 20 2004, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE (Kitsune Yamato @ Oct 21 2004, 04:28 AM)

QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 20 2004, 11:22 PM)

QUOTE (Kitsune Yamato @ Oct 21 2004, 04:21 AM)

deviantART? Don't you mean communistART, PK?

I think I mean dontusemusicinflashanimationsART

As much as it pains me, DA is terribly, terribly anal about submissions. They're an "art" community, and like to see "original" pieces of work. They don't like to see music that isn't composed by you in flash animations, whereas the skills of the animator don't lie in music, and without music attention isn't drawn very well.

They also don't like sprite edits cause the sprites weren't yours to begin with. What really irks me is that Sega has given people permission to fan-edit sprites on a non-profit basis, yet DA still insists on getting rid of what they don't feel to be art.

I can see deleting someone who uploaded a pic he found online to show friends, or a maganize scan, but using a clip of a song in an animation? ONOS DELETE.

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Nicholas Ainsworth

Posted: Oct 20 2004, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 20 2004, 11:34 PM)

QUOTE (Kitsune Yamato @ Oct 21 2004, 04:28 AM)

QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 20 2004, 11:22 PM)

QUOTE (Kitsune Yamato @ Oct 21 2004, 04:21 AM)

deviantART? Don't you mean communistART, PK?

I think I mean dontusemusicinflashanimationsART

Yeah, okay, so "original" on DA is naked chick with legs wide open, camera all in it? I'm sorry, there's a whole lotta that on DA.

But you bring something original and interesting to the table for once and the little fools go and nuke it off the server. I had about 21 game demos, many of which were my own games (not even fangames) and that moron Sycho felt like he was being a hero by having it all deleted.

DA's long gone to hell and there's no chance in it coming back unless God comes down from heaven and smites all the Nazis that call themselves admins.

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Parakarry	Posted: Oct 20 2004, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 20 2004, 11:50 PM)

Man. ._.
My only guess is that DA doesn't allow games or something? To be honest I have no idea..

That's about it. Except it's stated NOWHERE in the ToS.

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Posted: Oct 21 2004, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 20 2004, 11:50 PM)

Man. ._.
My only guess is that DA doesn't allow games or something? To be honest I have no idea..

That's about it. Except it's stated NOWHERE in the ToS.

What category did you put it under?

Also once I asked about music being put to DA, and they proclaimed that this is a visual art website, and while music is art, they don't deal with audial art.

I don't know if games would go under "visual art". I'm sorry if I look like I'm backing DA up on everything but I try to think of an explanation to why **** happens there.

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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 21 2004, 12:09 AM)

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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Oct 20 2004, 11:50 PM)

Man. ._.
My only guess is that DA doesn't allow games or something? To be honest I have no idea..

That's about it. Except it's stated NOWHERE in the ToS.

Nah, I don't feel that way.

Actually, I put it in Indy Art (when they had it, anyway). It seemed like the right place for it. They even had a section in Indy Art called "Game".

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