Team Fortress 2, and my ideas for it

I do this when confront snipers with either primary all the time.

also that looks rad trasher

Skill with a bit of luck is the best choice, yes.


Hell, maybe we should just remove the one class only deal if enough people want it gone. I personally want it still there, but hey. If the community wants it gone then sure.


*Trasher that looks hella cool. Good job!

This post has been edited by Dracon on Sep 19 2009, 12:05 PM

Guys, it is entirely possible to have a skill tournament while having it where both people do not play the same class against each other.

The way I see it, a player entering this tournament should pick a class they are best at, a class they have strategies for dealing with every other class in. If you're a good enough player, it is not going to end up entirely luck based. It is entirely possible to take out any class as any other class if you formulate a strategy for dealing with them, and yes, some will have a biased advantage. Chances are this won't happen EVERY round.

which would be, as I said, luck with some skill

I think it'd be an equal amount of luck and skill, and the skill would outbalance luck if the player was actually worth their salt. If you can't formulate strategies to deal with any situation, then you don't belong in a tournament


I don't mean to sound all tourney***gan but that's generally how tournaments work.

the small bit of skill can play a more important role than the large amount of luck, but its still less than the luck. Obviously a good player should have strategies against every class and any situation they can think of, but I think some of the classes have significant advantages over another that could really make things unfair.

likewise, the small bit of luck the other way could play a more important role than the skill, I'm sure we've all had bad days playing games and going "what the **** just happened"

Alrighty, I see where you're getting at now. I think the best course of action would to be try each style of tournament at seperate times and see which version everyone prefers?

Sounds good. What of team tournaments?

Team sizes would only be like 3v3 or something, I imagine considering the size of our player base :B

So what about a tourney where a class fights the same class and we all do that. That way we figure out who is best at each individual class?

holy **** wantttt


is that a steam skin...?!

This post has been edited by Mecha the Slag on Sep 19 2009, 12:42 PM

No, it's a .res file like custom HUDs are.

I never knew that that was what .res files were for!

please do share it

.res files basically define all the 2D elements in the game: HUDs, menus, borders, fonts etc... I've been rocking custom fonts for a while, and some HUD tweaks for a little bit, but that's neither here nor there.

I'll upload this after a little more tweaking and poking.

It's actually the same, but the hitbox is designed to be just big enough for an amateur sniper to hit it when it's not moving.

The Huntsman is a med-range weapon that can easily be spammed, meaning the hitbox is the same but much easier to hit, and you get more chances to do it.

And the Huntsman is broken vs. the Rifle. You can get headshot and still kill the guy easily.

This post has been edited by Dr. Bob-omb on Sep 19 2009, 01:15 PM

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Unlocks, seeing as some people are posting about them.

Blutsauger: Not since the update, as the regen rate now essentially cancels out flame damage so if you can escape a pyro and use it in combination with the kritz, you can easily survive.

Kritzkrieg: Always as I know a fair few people who can work wonders with one, but Uber is sometimes necessary to equip (for, say, a heavily tanked stage 3 dustbowl)

Ubersaw: Always. Can't think of a reason to go back aside from the speed.

Backburner: Never unless I want to incite some rage and there are ubers to be used, as airblasting is my new joy.

Flare Gun: Only used on maps like goldrush, where snipers CAN run wild but are vulnerable.

Axtinguisher: Never left home without it.

Natascha: Half and half on this one. I used to always use Natascha after they fixed it completely, but nowadays Sasha as the damage is so much nicer when you have a medic.

Sandvich: Always, now medics can be saved easily.

KGB: Torn between at the moment, as the tauntkill, while not useful, can have its hilarious moments.

FaN: Rarely used, as against other scouts you need a semi to good aim to deck them fast, and anything else the reload can be a killer. Also, the updated knockback means that to push back, say, a heavy, you need to be point blank, not a good idea firing at a spun up heavy just to push him back a bit.

Bonk: Never, unless friends with kritz or ubers want the way opened.

Sandman: Only sometimes, as the ball can be still useful for sniping kritz and incoming, ready-to-pop ubers. Otherwise, being made of paper is not fun.

Huntsman: Location based. On maps like the latter stages of dustbowl it's a godsend for me, as there's corridors perfect for the spam.

Jarate: Only if I use the huntsman, as I'm gonna be closer anyway.

Razorback: If I'm usingthe rifle, I'm gonna be so far way the SMG is gonna be pish and the Jarate is gonna somewhat hard to aim. Besides, what's not to like about having a ffine line against instant spy death?

Ambassador: Once again, map based. I only tend to use it on badwater and granary, as both have wide open areas for easy aiming. Besides, the normal revolver is SO much better IMO because of the damage.

Cloak and Dagger: Once again, map based. I'll use it for getting people's sentry bases (telefragging method) and waiting for snipers to ambassador, but otherwise it's usually DR.

Dead Ringer: My standard nowadays on 5CP and defending, as you can stave off the silliest of deaths (IE. demospam) so easily, and it makes people rage if they can never be certain you're actually dead.

Cheater's Lament: Only on Pyro, Medic and Heavy, because it looks 'right' for them. Only hat, as well.

Medal: Of course, Only soldier item I have.

This post has been edited by Hackett on Sep 19 2009, 01:33 PM

I tried that once.

But I wasn't far enough away from him, so...

Force-a-Nature: NO. Everyone who plays FaN scout spends half their time reloading when they could be shooting. Plus the knockback is insignificant now.

Bonk! Energy Drink: NO. Sentries and snipers need tough love. If I want a drink I'll go Demoman.

The Sandman: NO. **** 95 HP, let alone 65 in Arena matches.

Backburner: NO. I like airblast, tyvm.

Flare Gun: YES. Especially now that it minicrits on the second hit it's such an asshole weapon and I love it

Axtinguisher: YES. Burn, blast, and batter SWING!

Natascha: NO. I like more damage.

Sandvich: YES. More of a preferential choice than a gameplay one. I like to have it for when I feel silly.

Killing Gloves of Boxing: YES. Bamfing myself a kritz is glorious, especially while defending pl. It goes on, and on, and on

Blutsauger: YES. I'll probably be changing back now that they're equal. I like to get health on the go instead of aiming for it.

Kritzkrieg: NO. I find invulns a lot more useful.

Ubersaw: YES. I need it to charge my damn medigun since it takes forever. So I nail a cheap shot when I can. Especially Spies.

The Huntsman: NO. I find it easier to actually snipe with the rifle. Though I do pull it out occasionally to battlesnipe with Jarate.

Jarate: YES. Since I don't usually roll with the Huntsman, it's useful for close-range so I can just kukri/noscope them.

The Razorback: YES. I use it all the time because it's the most useful weapon ever and I love giving up a loadout slot to defend against one class.

The Ambassador: NO. I like shooting faster and hurting more. Plus I prefer the Revolver's sound.

The Cloak and Dagger: YES. Fits my style of sneaky *******ing perfectly.

The Dead Ringer: NO. I like to cloak of my own volition, and the Cloak and Dagger's stay invisible forever trick appeals more to me.



The Soldier's Stash: YES. Someone is going to maggotown and it isn't me.

Gentle Manne's Service Medal: YES. True patriot, *****es.



imo on the tournament: either go vanilla or don't ban anything. Anyone complaining about certain weapons is probably trying to save his/her ass from them when the tourney arrives.

This post has been edited by Bacteriophage on Sep 19 2009, 01:47 PM