The new official plot

Flamedragon, I would really like to stress to you that it is KAMEK with an E, not KAMAK. You do that for every topic when you post about Kamek. :P[I][B]

...oooh.

I really like how this turned out. It's very Mario-esque now. Looking back on the older ideas, or at least in my mind, it doesn't sound very Mario-ish to me. THIS DOES.

One idea I brought up ages ago was having E. Gadd or Dr. Crygor guide the respective brothers along the way with hints, or descriptions of the worlds they're going into, as well as the common enemies they can find there. Or just for general plot progression. It seems odd that Peach and Toad are kind of just "dumped" after the opening--perhaps they could also be called up for hints like E. Gadd, too. And other Wario Ware characters for the Wario Bros., as well.

Or perhaps the Toad Brigade from Mario Galaxy could appear to aide you at some moments. Call them down and they'll blow up some enemies in the Starshroom or something. Or use them for a space-shooting boss?

...uh, this may sound a bit stupid, but I just thought of it. I know it's not a great idea to throw in enemies who were abandoned just for the sake of it, but considering the plot deals heavily with treasure, I think it could work well to integrate Captain Syrup into the Wario Bros. plot as an antagonist for one of the worlds. Perhaps the Wario Bros. could have a seaside/treasure island-themed level where one of the shards or whatever is in posession of Captain Syrup or something.

Just suggestions though. I really like how it's come out, like I said.

EDIT:

I had another idea, but I dunno how good it really is. Just a little suggestion.

It seems pretty much decided some ancient spirit comes out from the amulet. It's probably better to fight just the spirit's incarnation, but what if, to fight you, it possessed Bowser (who should be laying around somewhere, considering you fight him in the temple), turning him into Giga Bowser for the final fight? Or perhaps this could be a secondary form for the spirit once you beat the first?

...I dunno. Like I said, just a suggestion. It doesn't seem too great, I just noticed a lot of people like the idea of using Giga Bowser.

This post has been edited by Evang on May 4 2008, 12:37 AM

Your ideas sound good.


SOMEBODY WORK ON THIS PROJECT

You know, that is a good idea. Though, instead of limiting it to just E. Gadd and Crygor, we should include a whole bunch of characters. Each world could have its own informant. At the beginning of the world, the characters could receive a call from one of the supporting characters, perhaps in the form of a text box dialogue on the world's map. The character would be calling to check up on the Bros., at which the pair disclose their location. The supporting character then proceeds to tell the team what they know of the location. It could be as useful as "I know where an ancient treasure might be" to something as vague as "I've only heard a little about the place". Afterward, the player could maybe choose a little icon on the world's map to call back the character and have them repeat what they know about the place. Though, this should probably be discussed in a separate topic.


As for the boss idea, Bowser being possessed has been a recent trend in games and would be highly predictable, and turning into Giga Bowser would just make it worse. Bowser should really be left alone after he's defeated.

dam I knew it, i just forget :P

also I like the Idea of what Evang said:
"Or perhaps the Toad Brigade from Mario Galaxy could appear to aide you at some moments. Call them down and they'll blow up some enemies in the Starshroom or something."

I think we should use this Idea in the game too ^_^

but it have to be in a star level so there should be a star world in the game.

I have plenty of ideas I could spill out forever about Mario, but I just don't want to go too overboard or else I would become tl;dr forever.

My ideas as to calling up characters would be like this. I don't necessarily think it's going to be very easy to program in, but just ideas is all.

Peach/Mona: Call them up and they'll send you some items in the mail.
Toad Captain/Jimmy: They can be summoned to provide help in levels. The Toad Brigade's Captain comes down with his crew in the Starshroom, and Jimmy and his family come down and provide help in various ways. They can help in ways from helping you skip a portion of the level, or coming and beating up the enemies on-screen at a certain point.
E. Gadd/Crygor: Give you hints.

To make this balanced out, as not to abuse the item privileges or just be able to skip every level:

A) Have a cell phone item to call up these characters for assistance. The battery will run out if you call long distances too many times, so it could work for either giving a context to making the Toad Brigade/Jimmy's family need a lot of this battery power to be called, or we could make it harder to make calls in later worlds--since you're farther from where they are.
B) Have "payphones" at Toad Houses you can use to call these characters up for their assistance. They're one time use only.

If we're going to stick with hints, which is obviously far simpler, we can stick to this:

Peach/Mona: They give hints on the areas themselves, and the path to take. Peach would know this best, being that it's HER kingdom you're in for most of the time, and it's been stated that Mona is adventurous, so she could know the areas. Or perhaps she just looks things up online for you while on the phone.
Toad/Jimmy: Give hints related to items. Toad fits this well, of course. And somehow, Jimmy seems to fit that well to me too.
E. Gadd/Crygor: Hints involving the flora and fauna of the worlds, and the nature of the treasures one must collect.

...now that I've mentioned Toad Houses, should Toads be there for Wario and Waluigi or should they have a different equivalent? I'm just pumping out whatever I think of, so I don't really know if these are any good, but uh.

A) Toads are just plain afraid of Wario and Waluigi and cower when they enter Toad Houses, letting them take what they please.
B) The two instead visit a Goomba Black Market or something. This could explain the difference in items between the two brothers, as well.

Here's my two bits:

In the first half of the ancient temple, you can play as Mario Bros. or Wario Bros. in BOTH games for a little variety. Then the second half, they split up. Mario fights bowser, Wario fights Kamek, yada yada yada. NOW is when they go to the ancient spirit's realm and what not, and boom! Done!

Whada ya think?

I Was Thinking about this for Chapter 1

Toad was sitting under a tree eating an apple when a little piece of silver metal fell out of the tree. Toad runs to Peach's Castle to show her, but on the way gets lost in the woods.
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That night at dinner in Peach's castle no one can find toad, so Peach asks Mario, and Luigi to go find him. "No," they say, "We just got back from saving the Galaxy."
"PLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEEE!!!!" she pleads.
"Aww Fine..."
"OH GOODY!" yelled Princess Peach.
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Toad was walking in the Woods when he sees Wario's House (though he doesn't know that yet, he doesn't know who Wario is.) Toad walks in and looks around. "Hello?"
Wario and Waluigi walk out from the other room, "Who....are......you " They ask.
"I am Toad." toad said."I got lost in the wood. Do you know how to get out?"
" So, what? This place isn't good enough for ya'?"
"No.... That's not what I..."
"So, now you say I'm WRONG!?!" Wario pushed Toad out of the house, and Toad dropped the piece of Silver Metal out of his pocket.
Toad started walking around scared in the wood.
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Mario and Luigi walk out of the Castle and see Toad' footprints. "This should be easier than I though." said Mario, "Footprints will lead us to Toad.
Mario and Luigi walked in to the woods and found Toad, "There you are Toad." said Luigi relieved.
Toad asks mario if he knows what... "where'd it go" toad starts searching around in his pocket.
"Where'd what go."
"My little piece of silver." toad said while looking in his other pocket. " It was about the size of a quarter, and it said anci... amu... on it. it looked a bit like it was broken.
At this time Wario and Waluigi jumped out of the door, and started running farther in to the forest "LET'S GO FIND THE MAGIC AMULET SO WE CAN GET THE MAGIC PRIZE!!!!"
We have to stop them from getting all the pieces of the amulet. yelled Mario.
"why?" asked toad.
" I'll explain later!!!!!" yelled Mario running off in to the forest after Wario with Luigi trailing behind.
Toad could think of nothing else but to follow so he did.

What do ya' think of it?