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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:18 PM
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-How to Critique-

Some people on MFGG do not know how to critique properly. I am not saying that you should critique like this, but it'd be better for you and the person that you are doing the critique on.


-Things that you should not do in an critique-

1.] Do not say Fail, Sucks, Horrible, or anything negative in a non-constructive way. This does not help the person become better.

2.] Saying "Oh man, your art work is perfect" Because in reality, human beings aren't perfect. (except for Duckboy)

3.] If someone has stated a flaw out to the person, please try not to state that same flaw out. I'm sure the person knows that flaw after the first time. (or first couple of times of it being said)


-Things that you should do in an critique-

1.] Point out good things about the person's work and also bad things. This will tell the person what they did good on and what they need to improve on in the future.

2.] Help the person out by fixing their mistake and comparing the two works. Ask for permission first from the person though.

3.] Give out pointers and tricks (if you can) to the person on how to create a certain area in the work. This will help the person learn faster and make it quicker.

4.] Try to be nice about pointing out possible flaws in art work. Being an ass, doesn't make the person feel better about their art work.

5.] If you're familiar with an artist's work, when critiquing their work, critique with their style in mind. Don't try to critique on staples of their style, as it can come off as nitpicking.

I'm not trying to step on any toes here. I've just noticed that some people aren't really giving out good critiques. (or for that matter, being nice about it)

So, if you don't like this, that is fine. I thought I would help out people in the Art Boards a bit more. =)

-Jessica-

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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:24 PM
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YES.
Great topic, should be stickied IMO
I've noticed numerous people do this, and sometimes to me. It doesn't make ya feel to great, and this is how people should critique.
Great topic, once again.

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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:26 PM
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Stiky, please.


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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:27 PM
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that was pretty nice


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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:28 PM
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You have performed a great service to this forum, also this needs a sticky...


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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:32 PM
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Aw, thanks you guys. ^_^

Just wanting to help in some way or form. If I'm not a mod, make topics!!! haha.


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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:37 PM
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You pretty much said this with the first one but the opposite is true. "great", "godly", "awesome" are annoying. I think a good reply needs at least 5 words.


But yes, this needs a sticky now


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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 09:40 PM
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You could also add how people shouldn't just say one word, like Shyguy Grey said.
Example:
SPRITERGUY: This is my giant project I have worked on for months. I have shaded everything.... and so on...
ExperiencedMFGGer: Very good, however I think you should edit the shading on the.... and so on
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My english teacher has the best point on critiques: point out what's interesting, flawed, and unusual. Then it pretty much writes itself.


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Sticky this NOW. This will help newbies that go around the arts board commenting on peoples work.


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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 10:30 PM
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By virtue of the powers of situational irony, I shall now critique this tutorial!
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-Things that you should not do in an critique-
2.] Try to be nice about pointing out possible flaws in art work.
This doesn't bode well. No, this doesn't bode well at all.

I would suggest moving that to the "things you should do" section so as to avoid potential misunderstanding.


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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (xn--e5x @ Feb 24 2008, 10:30 PM)
By virtue of the powers of situational irony, I shall now critique this tutorial!This doesn't bode well. No, this doesn't bode well at all.

I would suggest moving that to the "things you should do" section so as to avoid potential misunderstanding.

Hahaha, good eye, man. Jess made me read this a few times beforehand and I'm surprised I didn't catch that.


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QUOTE (xn--e5x @ Feb 24 2008, 07:30 PM)
By virtue of the powers of situational irony, I shall now critique this tutorial!This doesn't bode well. No, this doesn't bode well at all.

I would suggest moving that to the "things you should do" section so as to avoid potential misunderstanding.

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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE (xn--e5x @ Feb 25 2008, 03:30 AM)
By virtue of the powers of situational irony, I shall now critique this tutorial!This doesn't bode well. No, this doesn't bode well at all.

I would suggest moving that to the "things you should do" section so as to avoid potential misunderstanding.

She was just testing our critiquing skills

that visionary~


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QUOTE (Ashura @ Feb 24 2008, 08:08 PM)
She was just testing our critiquing skills

that visionary~

OH I wish. Haha.


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QUOTE (Visionary @ Feb 25 2008, 02:18 AM)
-Things that you should not do in an critique-

2.] Advoid saying "Oh man, your art work is perfect" Because in reality, human beings aren't perfect.

by your logic I should always say "Oh man, your art work is perfect"

remove "advoid"

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Posted: Feb 24 2008, 11:23 PM
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Tis ok, I've had a long day and not most of the things I type aren't perfect. Thanks for re-checking it. ^_^

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Hey, this is a good idea! I'm gonna sticky this. Sorry I wasn't around sooner!


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 07:03 PM
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Lovely idea Visionary, this could man less bad critique around here!


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 07:25 PM
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Yeah, MFGG fails at commenting on artwork. This will definitely aid in the quest for better responses.


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