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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 01:09 AM
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REQUIREMENTS~
1) Quality >>> Quantity. Rushed works do not belong here.

Do not start posting random junk you made in 5 minutes, knowing that it is rushed, and post it here. If you drew something really quickly and felt like posting it somewhere, feel free to post it in the WIP/sketch forum.

Of course, anyone can post here, regardless of skill. Do not fear that your drawings aren't arts board worthy! There's a difference between quality and skill; quality results from skill, and some people do not have the skill to post extremely high quality art, and that's fine. If you truly worked hard on a drawing that others feel looks subpar, don't be harsh on yourself since you did your best. However, if you could have done a much better job than what you posted, then it is highly recommended to NOT post it here.

Here's an example. Here are two drawings made by me, guess which one is higher quality than the other:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/Ashurasonic/ex1.png
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y235/Ashu...pplantfinal.png

Which one looked like it took 1 minute, and which one looked like it took over 2 hours?

2) Artistic freedom is not always applicable in this board. Pornography for instance, is not allowed here.

Just to clear things up:

Pornography =/= Artistic nudity. Artistic nudity involves using nude pictures of men or women and settings to show a moral. It is restricted based on what we accept. However, Pornography simply arouses the person viewing it. Artistic nudity is allowed to some extent, but remember to add a warning in the topic you are posting it on. Children post here and they might be disturbed seeing nudity even if isn't meant to arouse them; it should be up to them to decide if they want to view it or not. Also, keep the nudity to a minimum, especially if the artistic nudity involves a person's underprivates. Exposed breasts are fine as long as they aren't meant to arouse anyone viewing it.

Cartoon nudity is not allowed, even censored ones. If you like drawing lolicon, hentai or any of that nasty stuff, post it somewhere where adult material is allowed; we don't want it and you WILL BE PERMABANNED FOR POSTING IT. Even if you provide a warning, it's still not allowed. Just a friendly warning!

Basically anything you make that is obscene/offensive will be deleted and you'll be permabanned as a result.

RECOMMENDATIONS~
1) The longer the better. To make a higher quality picture, try using drawing time frames.

Drawing time frames are specified time limits for your drawings. Give yourself a minimum time limit for your drawing; if you're more experienced, you can also give yourself a maximum time limit for your drawing. For example, I have a minimum time limit of 30 minutes for my drawings, and 3 hours for my maximum. If people do not like your art, but you worked on it for at least 30 minutes, they might recognize that it has some effort into it. Most importantly though, be satisfied that you worked on it so long and don't give up.

2) Help yourself by utilizing others. Use a reference when drawing.

References are useful to get a drawing right. A reference is any material that could aid you in drawing an object. Whether it would be looking at photos of hands to get a drawing of a hand to look right, or see the bone structure of a human to see if your person is anatomically correct, references are useful. Professional artists use it, don't be afraid to be reliant on them! You'll improve; this is from personal experience.

If you receive criticism that "the hands look funny", then try to look at a picture of a hand and see what you can correct.

http://www.fineart.sk is a decent place for anatomy references.
http://www.picsearch.com is a decent place for any reference.

err, have fun!

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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE (Ashura @ Feb 25 2008, 01:09 AM)
Children post here and they might be disturbed seeing nudity even if isn't meant to arouse them; it should be up to them to decide if they want to view it or not.

Oh please, Ashura, I can name a few children on this board who whack off to artistic nude.

Everything else, however, very excellent points.


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 01:20 AM
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QUOTE (Nicholas Ainsworth @ Feb 25 2008, 06:13 AM)
Oh please, Ashura, I can name a few children on this board who whack off to artistic nude.

Everything else, however, very excellent points.

...... err uhh

then artistic nudity is banned I guess?? :x


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE (Ashura @ Feb 25 2008, 01:20 AM)
...... err uhh

then artistic nudity is banned I guess?? :x

No, still put a mature warning on it. It wasn't meant to be viewed as porn. It's just that some of our members have a hyperactive libido at the age of 13.


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 02:34 AM
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I like this. =)

Very well thought out.


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE (Ashura @ Feb 25 2008, 07:09 AM)
1) Quantity >>> Quality.

I laughed.

Also we really need to start giving better critisism as a community, so yeah. *thumbs up*


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 02:57 AM
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QUOTE (Ashura @ Feb 25 2008, 12:09 AM)
Quantity >>> Quality.

You've got your symbols backwards, bro :<


The way you have the symbols facing is saying that Quantity is preferred to Quality!


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As far as I know, we pretty much don't allow anything that reveals sexual organs.


With the obvious exception of people abusing those lousy one-line text breasts and the such.


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More people need to actively Critique art.. rather then "Oh thats cool" "AWESOME" "needs work" "good" comments i see, Pick it apart.


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Feb 25 2008, 02:59 AM)
As far as I know, we pretty much don't allow anything that reveals sexual organs.

what if I put a huge warning?

Like, 72px, red impact font?


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE (Elly @ Feb 25 2008, 09:45 AM)
what if I put a huge warning?

Like, 72px, red impact font?

I am highly opposed to the idea of pronz in these forums...


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QUOTE (MarioMK1 @ Feb 25 2008, 10:53 AM)
I am highly opposed to the idea of pronz in these forums...

Nobody said porn

Artistic Nudity =/= porn


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (MarioMK1 @ Feb 25 2008, 09:53 AM)
I am highly opposed to the idea of pronz in these forums...

Think nudity and nakedness.

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QUOTE (Nova @ Feb 25 2008, 03:57 PM)
Artistic Nudity =/= porn

agreed.
sadly not many people relise this fact.


Still even so i don't think MFGG is ready for something like that due to the young members.

if you draw nudity it's best to post it in a more mature place.
(if places like that Exists)


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (NO Body @ Feb 25 2008, 10:14 AM)
agreed.
sadly not many people relise this fact.


Still even so i don't think MFGG is ready for something like that due to the young members.

if you draw nudity it's best to post it in a more mature place.
(if places like that Exists)

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though those ****ers have deleted my nude works in the past, so I dunno


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QUOTE (Nicholas Ainsworth @ Feb 25 2008, 11:15 AM)
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though those ****ers have deleted my nude works in the past, so I dunno

They don't take kindly to Cartoon nudity..

Most of it gets deleted, See Teru-chan.


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QUOTE (Nova @ Feb 25 2008, 10:32 AM)
They don't take kindly to Cartoon nudity..

Most of it gets deleted, See Teru-chan.

Oh god, half of it is loli or moe D:

I guess it would make sense then, a few bad apples spoil the whole orchard.


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 12:18 PM
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Good points you bring here, yes nod.gif

Let's see how many people bother to follow them now..


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Posted: Feb 25 2008, 02:50 PM
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Next is "how to properly critique art"? Because people usually don't do well with this, even when the creator asks for it.

"There's nothin wrong! It's awesome :svh:"

There's...
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something that could be improved.

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You brought out some very good points.

I've seen a lot of crappy art in this forum. Maybe this will make them post decent art next time.
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