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Game Maker 7 EULA appearantly remastered, All rights are YOURS now.

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Guinea

Posted: Feb 26 2008, 01:50 PM

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So yea, this has been a big thing back when YoYo took over the GM franchise.
To everyone who doesn't know it:
The EULA when installing GM7 said that every game you make with it belongs to YoYo and that all characters also belong to them and therefore they could sue you for making money with "their" characters even though you invented them.

So yea, there has been some silence about this and YoYo representatives also stated that this EULA was badly written and doesn't actually mean this.

So yea, I was looking at the YoYo games Website and looked at the Terms of Use.

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Games and Intellectual Property Rights
* By “Intellectual Property Rights” what we mean is all ownership rights and interests in copyright, design right, database right, patents and any rights to inventions, know-how, trade and business names, trade secrets and trade marks (whether registered or unregistered) and any applications therefor and other like rights.
* All Content, including Games uploaded, submitted, posted or otherwise placed on yoyogames.com by users shall be subject to the terms and conditions of the software products used for their development. In the case of those developed using and based on the software product known as Game Maker (“Game Maker Software”), the Game Maker Software end user licence agreement specifically applies.
* Except for those parts and elements which belong to and vest in YoYo Games, including without limitation those which form part of, are derived from or are modifications of the Game Maker Software you will be responsible for the Content , including Games and you accept that full responsibility and liability for the Content, including Games rests solely with you. YoYo Games shall have no liability in relation thereto.
* By uploading, submitting, posting or otherwise placing any Content, including Games on yoyogames.com you expressly agree and confirm that:
* you are not a minor or else have your parent’s or guardian’s permission to do so on these Terms and agree these Terms;
* you have read and agreed to these Terms and understand them or have had them explained by a parent or guardian who does so;
* your Content, including Games may be used on and in connection with yoyogames.com;
* your username may be advertised and used in connection with your Content, including Games;
* you grant to YoYo Games the non-exclusive, irrevocable, worldwide, perpetual, royalty free right and licence to use your Content, including Games on and in connection with yoyogames.com and to give all consents (if any) which YoYo Games requires including under copyright and other intellectual property, data protection and privacy laws world wide, for that use only; WHAT this meanS IS that we will NOT sell your Game OR ANY EXTENSIONS (OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU UPLOAD) or use THEM separately from yoyogames.com WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION. WHAT IT DOES mean IS that we can use WHAT YOU UPLOAD WITHIN THE web site and make it available to users of the web site
* you have the right grant this license and permission;
* you own or have proper licences, permissions and other consents in place in respect of all features and resources used in the Content, including Games ;
* any Content, including Games or Communication you submit and the use of it as envisaged by these Terms does not and will not infringe any third party Intellectual Property Rights or other rights;
* you are entitled to grant the rights granted and you are not under any contractual or other obligations preventing you from doing so;
* you have received all necessary permissions and consent required for the use of any Content, including Games or Communication by YoYo Games, as described in these terms and conditions;
* that you have not granted any other person any rights that are inconsistent with the licence granted above;

So yea, in bold, this appearantly means that everything you make with Game Maker AND send to YoYo belongs to them as far as: They can host it on their website and do with it what they want as long as they don't sell it. But the rights will still be yours.

I'm not entirely sure if this counts for this website only or something but the way it sounds it seems YoYo has really changed this EULA.

Discuss and correct me if you think I'm wrong.
And tell me if this is old news too, but I have never seen that posted yet, so I thought you guys would be interested in that.

This post has been edited by Guinea on Feb 26 2008, 04:57 PM

Grant

Posted: Feb 26 2008, 01:53 PM

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Is there still something that prohibits fangames in the license agreement (if there ever was a part like that)?

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Demonlemon	Posted: Feb 26 2008, 01:54 PM
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Guinea

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QUOTE (Grant @ Feb 26 2008, 08:53 PM)

Is there still something that prohibits fangames in the license agreement (if there ever was a part like that)?

Appearantly, YoYo has no problem with fangames as they host them themselves. Some of them are even "Staff Picks". So this fangame issue shouldn't be a big problem and appearantly never was.

Grant

Posted: Feb 26 2008, 02:03 PM

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I see.

Even before this, though, I still used GM7 sometimes for things (though it was mostly for editables already made in GM7).

I think I still tend to prefer GM6 in general, partly because of what I've heard about GM7 executables being huge.

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Littlink	Posted: Feb 26 2008, 02:14 PM
hip 2b square Group: Members Posts: 5146 Member No.: 2010 Joined: 11-April 06 Status: (0d)	This is one of the many reasons I don't use GM7. GM6 doesn't have this agreement (methinks it applies only to GM7). That an big filesizes, longer loading, Yoyogames, etc. :V -------------------- [████████░░] 80%

Guinea

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QUOTE (Littlink @ Feb 26 2008, 09:14 PM)

This is one of the many reasons I don't use GM7. GM6 doesn't have this agreement (methinks it applies only to GM7). That an big filesizes, longer loading, Yoyogames, etc. :V

*cough* just to make sure you didn't miss anything out: The new agreement this topic is about says clearly that YoYo WILL NOT own your games...

Littlink	Posted: Feb 26 2008, 03:48 PM
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Debug_Mode	Posted: Feb 26 2008, 03:57 PM
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Posted: Feb 26 2008, 05:02 PM

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This is great news!
Even though I use GM6, but many people out there will be happy. ^^

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Posted: Feb 26 2008, 06:19 PM

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Yeah, I would have ignored that statement and see if they tried to sue me.

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Posted: Feb 26 2008, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE (Debug_Mode)

Too bad I still hate GM7 though :P

What? Why?

I HATE GM6. I know there's the converter thing and everything, but it's much less trouble to just open the zip without downloading it.

Anyway, this isn't really amazing news to me or anything. Never really paid attention to it.

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Debug_Mode

Posted: Feb 26 2008, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE (Greenie @ Feb 26 2008, 07:55 PM)

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Too bad I still hate GM7 though :P

I'm too lazy to look for it but I remember there being some problems with it, mainly problems with extra file size and some other crap.

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Armada	Posted: Feb 26 2008, 08:23 PM
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Razz	Posted: Feb 26 2008, 11:16 PM
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Grant

Posted: Feb 26 2008, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE (Razz @ Feb 26 2008, 11:16 PM)

(Full 3D programming anyone?)

I think Mark Overmars stated somewhere that he wasn't planning on taking GM in that direction, but I can't fully remember.

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Xgoff

Posted: Feb 26 2008, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE (Razz @ Feb 26 2008, 09:16 PM)

(Full 3D programming anyone?)

ahaha GML is way too high-level of a language for this

might as well start learning C and/or C++

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QUOTE (ndsfreak @ Feb 26 2008, 09:39 PM)

Yes! Now they can't decompile my game to see whats inside of it without my permission!

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Not like they'd do that anyhow.

if they owned the rights to it, they could do whatever the hell they wanted with it

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