WIP: Mushroom Kingdom Fusion, November 11, 2008: Demo v0.2.5 released

I don't know if Zero will become a playable character at this point. Amongst the development team, there is a possibility that ROLL will become playable.

Link is an excellent candidate for a playable character, so I'll let everyone know when there is a call for a new character.

well give me a PM if your gonna Add one of them.

don't take to long to deside though, i'm a busy person, and chances are if it takes to long i wont have time.

but i strongly sugest Link, plus it whould be fun to sprite him in that style.

@Black Squirrel:

Here's the new name to replace the "Fusion Force" character roster:

Mushroom Kingdom Coalition (MK Coalition or MKC abbreviated)

It does not sound corny like "Fusion Force". It fits better because all of these characters join forces for a common cause: to fight the common villain.

Just a word of warning though - Superstar sprites would be huge in comparison to pretty much every other character. Might be better off with the GBA set instead, though personally I'd go for re-tuning the old GameBoy/NES ones.

As long as we're revealing sprites. Even though he's not playable, megaman and his friends still have an important npc role in the game. So I've made some nice Wily Wars style sprite edits to the NES style Blue Bomber. The finished version of Roll is debatable, if she's to be a playable character, she may need a bigger redesign, possibly something similar to her Marvel Vs Capcom persona, but shrunk down to Mario size.

I personally think having Roll as a playable character would be a neat idea. Seeing as how Megaman isn't around except for his power-up, maybe she'd join the fray to rescue him for once....or something like that

And Link would fit as well. If you have Kirby and even Tails as future rebellion members, why not the elfish one?

Bad name change in my honest opinion

It wouldn't be wise to go overboard on characters - this is a Mario engine after all and you'd have to re-work it for everyone, and as I've already mentioned finding sprites will be very, very hard. You're best bet is 3 or 4 characters MAX, I think. maybe have a couple special ones as unlockables (Sonic and Arthur) but if you go overboard it just gets a bit messy. And to be fair you don't really need half of these.

ROB for example would be much more fun as a suit. It's not an established character, I can't see him being a better choice than say, MegaMan who isn't in as a playable character... he just seems a bit pointless. HOWEVER, a ROB SUIT for Mario/Luigi could be entertaining, and probably more worthwile.

Tails is quite literally the same as Sonic gameplay wise but with the added ability to fly... so why not do something like Knuckles Chaotix, and have a TV Monitor that changes Sonic into Tails for a bit. It would be far more interesting, especially since that character's due to lose out on all those Mario suits. In theory you could do others too, but if you do decide to use Sonic Chaos sprites... well there's only Sonic and Tails in that game really. And hey, they did it in Sonic 2's 2 player mode.

What I'd like to see as well is a Kirby suit instead of Kirby... which sounds stupid I know but it's never been done before. If it granted Mario the ability to uh... get abilities it would be fantastic. Mario with the power of a Koopa Troopa = NSMB's Koopa Mario? Mario with the power of a boo = Boo Mario? Hammer Bros. = Hammer Mario? There's a lot you could do here, and it's a slight improvement over having to edit Kirby sprites to fit. The inevitable badnik enemies in the Sonic levels could equal that ROB suit mentioned above. I just personally think this might be a more interesting direction to go in.

This works better as a Mario fangame than an all-star characters on an all-star quest. The latter type of fangame does not tend to work (or at least I haven't seen it successfully work... ever). You're due to lose a lot of originality by sticking in loads of famous video game characters. I wouldn't want to see that happen. You're on the verge of creating one of best Mario fangames ever, don't ruin it by pushing Mario out


and god I type too much

Lol im there.

Here's what I think we should do about the characters:

1. Keep it down. I'm okay with the current list, and it's good, but let's not make this a, say, 15-character festival.

2. We should have two flanks of the Fusion Coalition: All-purpose (Mario, Sonic, Luigi, Wario, and Arthur) and World-specific. I want to make an original character that's ONLY for World 2, and this would be a good example.

JudgeSpear is going to make me some tilesets because I'm having a little bit of issues with all of those major sets available. I'm also planning on taking fan requests and am about to begin on the Ice Cap and Death Egg levels.

Then Kirby, Tails and perhaps Roll/Zero/Link could be only used in their respective worlds

What if ROB was instead some kind of ally that followed you around? Like Guilty Spark, only he'd do more than provide items

This post has been edited by Demonic Jello on Apr 18 2008, 01:38 PM

Good point about there being too many characters.

Since it's still an early WIP, everything is still tentative. For sure, Luigi is in. Arthur is currently being worked on.

I'll try to keep the roster to 6 or 7 characters maximum. That means some characters in that list will be cut.

Here's what the list should be:
Mario
Luigi
Wario
Arthur
Sonic
Kirby or Link

This post has been edited by JudgeSpear on Apr 18 2008, 02:25 PM

Top tip: You'll have troubles finding link sprites that match

Though it might be better to expand your horizons past Nintendo. Maybe a Hudson representative instead? Taito? Konami? SquareEnix?

Fix'd

I've been proposing things like this a lot lately, but...have you though on characters that join the rebellion, but can't actually be controlled?

In some levels you'd have a character tagging along with you until you reach the end, either by providing items, attacking or helping you get past obstacles

It'd give the impression that the heroes' doing is getting stronger around the worlds and motivating others to fight against the main evil, or the like

This post has been edited by Demonic Jello on Apr 18 2008, 02:51 PM

A forumer here named NO Body has offered to make Link sprites.

I was thinking about simon Belmont...8-bit Castlevania sprite retouched into 16-bit. Feel free to make other suggestions.

This post has been edited by JudgeSpear on Apr 18 2008, 07:40 PM

Personally I liked the name "Super Mario Fusion" better.

A game that has Arthur, Sonic, and other non-Mario and non-Nintendo characters as playable characters can't be called "Super Mario Fusion", can it now?

Here is why the name of the game was changed:
*Mario is no longer the sole focus of this fan game, thanks to the roster of characters with vastly different abilities.
*"Mushroom Kingdom Fusion" is an allusion to the still-Mario gameplay, now heavily modified.
*With all these updates and changes and new gameplay features, even I think that this is straying away from the whole Mario theme. I used to get into huge fights with Mario purists over this. Now that the game has evolved drastically, I agree with them now.
*Dropping Mario's name will help prevent any trouble with Nintendo if they choose to get pissy over it.

This post has been edited by JudgeSpear on Apr 18 2008, 11:03 PM

That's the same thing you said on YouTube.

Anyway, JS has said that in the Halo levels there may be marines which follow you. Maybe if that happened, R.O.B could be implemented into a NES style level using that coding.

This game is on the track to becoming even better than TSB

Good job, and keep it up


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