So Nova and I were saying the US elections, are always stretched way too long.

um what

free speech is pretty damn existent so i dunno what you're talking about


one reason for the length of our elections (other than obvious population/50 states thing)

is the fact that our system pretty much only allows a two party system; without the backing of a party, there is pretty much no way for a candidate to raise enough funds/popularity to get funding from the government itself

i hope you're not talking about the US because uh

Clause 2:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

Clause 3:

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.9

Clause 4:

The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

You are a bit mistaken.

Can't even talk about our own government except 'LOL IT'S BEST" anymore.

so are you just always uninformed or do you just choose to not pay attention

take a look outside, on the internet

how much anti bush stuff do you see?

and free speech is only restricted under 3 occasions (possibly 4):

libel, slander, obscenity, maybe another but i don't remember

This post has been edited by Rath! on Mar 5 2008, 07:00 PM

I think it's treason but I'm probably wrong

not according to wikipedia so i dunno, might be sedition

yeah it's sedition, schenck vs US defined that free speech can be revoked in the face of "clear and present danger"

ruling on schenck was "[w]hen a nation is at war many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right."

Damn Rath you just owned this whole place.

I already covered those two in my post.

M.Bison: Some of us are from Canada, so even though we aren't actively engaged in the US elections, we're right on top of you guys, and we have great foreign relations between the two countries... so I think we'd like to at least be able to know in a quick manner of time whether the US President is going to keep that friendly neighbour you-scratch-our-back-we'll-scratch-yours concept, or if the President is just going to decide to screw us over.