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Posted: Apr 2 2008, 09:04 PM
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So, Someguy and I were discussing the potential abilities of the Mario Bros. compared to the Wario Bros. when we came up with this idea:
  • Mario & Luigi would get their Fire Flower, while Wario & Waluigi would get their Dragon Cap. Both would enable fire power, but the difference lies in path of the fireball. If it is decided Mario & Luigi should have another item (like frog suit or something), Wario & Waluigi should be given a hat with the same functionality to keep the two sides balanced.
  • Power-up system sort of like Wario Land 3. The Teams would start out with nothing but basic run and jump, but eventually gain moves like Wario's ramming and Mario's Hammer. Since this game is mostly linear, the power-ups would mainly just decrease time needed to get through, for example, a block-laden area. They would be require to progress in the game, though.
  • There would be two types of exclusive movesets that each team would possess. Mario would get his hammer for clearing things in front of and below him, while Waluigi would get small bombs for the same task. Wario would get his ram attack for breaking things ahead of him, even in the air, while Luigi would get his Luigi Torpedo to do the same thing. The levels should be designed to allow either brother to finish the level, even if resorting to cleverly-designed multiple paths. These abilities could be powered up once more to be faster/more powerful/chargable/etc.
  • All four would have ground pound as a power-up move. This could be powered up for greater power or something.
  • Additional power-up abilities could include higher jumps, bigger firepower, and faster shell-kicking, just for some ideas


We didn't really think of where or when these power-ups would be, or even how they would be represented. Just for some ideas off the top of my head, they could be ancient scrolls found mid-level, or said scrolls rewarded for beating mini-bosses, or simply granted to the player for beating a world through the power of the amulet shard they collect.



What do you think? Does it sound like a good idea?


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Posted: Apr 2 2008, 09:12 PM
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Yeah, I really like this idea, plus we were planning on adding the Wario Bros. abilities, so why not the Mario Bros.?


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Posted: Apr 2 2008, 09:13 PM
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I was thinking that some things could have a wall kick affect.


Like, for example, a giant dandilion puff could be hit, then kicked off of.


Also, I had some ideas for yoshi, but first we need to deside if he could be used.


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Posted: Apr 3 2008, 03:29 PM
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Wow, great ideas. I'd gladly make a hammer swinging animation for Mario if yall'd make me a hammer. biggrin.gif
But the Luigi Tornado sounds less like a Mario-Platformer move and more SSBB..., but I'm fine with it if you guys are. biggrin.gif


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Posted: Apr 3 2008, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (Dex @ Apr 3 2008, 03:29 PM)
Wow, great ideas. I'd gladly make a hammer swinging animation for Mario if yall'd make me a hammer. biggrin.gif
But the Luigi Tornado sounds less like a Mario-Platformer move and more SSBB..., but I'm fine with it if you guys are. biggrin.gif

I like the Luigi torpedo idea. I think it would be cool to see it in action in a game other than SSB


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Posted: Apr 3 2008, 07:41 PM
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weapons for mario bros.

elemental hammers, fludd, polturgust, etc.


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Posted: Apr 4 2008, 09:06 PM
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Hammer Time!

Now someone needs to make a hammer and this animation will rock. So get to it, lackeys! jk biggrin.gif


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Posted: Apr 4 2008, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (Dex @ Apr 4 2008, 09:06 PM)
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Hammer Time!

Now someone needs to make a hammer and this animation will rock. So get to it, lackeys! jk biggrin.gif

Oh, that reminded me.

Mario's fire power should super charge some of his move with a fiery twist.

Ground Pound=Meteor Smash (GP but with fire so he can smash through icey floors)

Hammer=Fire Hammer

Spin Jump=... well... a Spin Jump but with fire.


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Posted: Apr 4 2008, 09:16 PM
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I had a few ideas similar to that, but they were upgrades, not Fire Mario powers.
Still good ideas either way.
I also have an air smash Hammer so you can hit in the air...it's sorta like Kirby's in SSBB.


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Posted: Apr 4 2008, 09:50 PM
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Also, I was thinking, and I'm not sure if this is the right topic, but it's close enough, that if the bros. use yoshi that, instead of him running away after every hit like in SMW, he should have his own health meter and dissapear after it runs out.



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Posted: Apr 4 2008, 10:43 PM
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Or the Bros could get knocked off and start crying while locked in bubbles

Cuz everyone wants to see a grown man in a bubble crying.

Yea, but I'd like that better than the run away thing- that made me so mad.


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Posted: Apr 4 2008, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (Dex @ Apr 4 2008, 10:43 PM)
Or the Bros could get knocked off and start crying while locked in bubbles

Cuz everyone wants to see a grown man in a bubble crying.

Yea, but I'd like that better than the run away thing- that made me so mad.

That way, it'd also give the feeling that yoshis is more of a living thing than an item. He could even be affected by powerups.


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Posted: Apr 4 2008, 10:49 PM
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Mega Yoshi ftw

That'd be better than how Nintendo has implemented him so far in games where Mario rides him. And you totally need to make Mario riding him or something into an animation. Like running and then stick his tongue out to eat something, idk, I think it'd look pretty cool.


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  Posted: Apr 26 2008, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Apr 4 2008, 09:12 PM)
Spin Jump=... well... a Spin Jump but with fire.

In SMW the Spin Jump shot out some fireballs in different directions if you had a Fire Flower- maybe we could do that here as well.
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Posted: Apr 26 2008, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Apr 4 2008, 09:50 PM)
Also, I was thinking, and I'm not sure if this is the right topic, but it's close enough, that if the bros. use yoshi that, instead of him running away after every hit like in SMW, he should have his own health meter and dissapear after it runs out.

He killed me when he did that. I jumped on his head, and he bit me.


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Posted: May 2 2008, 09:29 PM
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So what other ideas do we have for Mario and Luigi's moves? I need to add them to the sheet and sprite them to get the whole sheets done.


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Posted: May 28 2008, 04:13 PM
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Here's what I think:

Mario and Wario will have the things stated above, Hammer and Fist Ram destroying blocks next to them. However, Luigi and Waluigi will have no special abilities, and instead make up for it with impressive jumping, running and swimming skills. All will have ground pounds that can destroy blocks under them.

Also, the Warios' should be able to knock out enemies and throw them.


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