Sprite Comp #132- Mario Map Screens, yeah that's right

http://www.natomic.com/hosted/marks/mpat/shading.html

Read through this entire page.

EDIT: Also, Nova, that looks great so far. Keep it up, yours is one of the few I want to see finished so far.

This post has been edited by ndsfreak on Apr 21 2008, 07:14 PM

It won't let me access the page. Can't you just put in a breif summary?

And seriously, why is pillow-shading so bad? I've seen Nintendo do it millions of times, and nobody yells at them for it.

This post has been edited by Black Boo on Apr 21 2008, 07:32 PM

I've never seen nintendo pillow shade.

Okay, first of all, you obviously don't know what you're talking about, because nintendo has never pillow shaded once, and if you don't know what pillow shading is, how can you claim that nintendo has done it multiple times if you CLEARLY have never heard of it before.

Case and point

Tried to get rid of pillow-shading, changed the water, added Star Warp, a treasure chest and level confirm poses for Mario Luigi and Wario.

Your roads are still pillowed.

I know. I'll do them later.

IMO the light source for the big green "hills" or whatever seems a bit off. It's like the light is coming more from below them than above them.

God, the path is just hopeless... Think it would be better off flat colored?
Also changed the shading on the big green hill a little.

Oh, I get it now. But seriously, Some sets look better with it. SO STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT IT! Only complain if it totally ruin the tileset.

And they did it in animal crossing.

This post has been edited by Black Boo on Apr 21 2008, 08:56 PM

It's not an accusation. I'm just saying the Toad House and Fortress look NEARLY the same as the original.......

Oh, and Pillow Shading can be a problem. What Pillow Shading does is make an object look more like it needs to be looked at from a bird's eye view, where everything is seen from the top. Pillow Shading is a make or break deal, and there's a 99.9% chance it'll break. It's not attractive, and it's only more work than necessary!

This post has been edited by Soiyeruda on Apr 21 2008, 08:59 PM

No.

Nothing looks good with pillow shading.

Sorry. Anyway, no. They're not.

EDIT: Get off my back about it. NICKtendo DS's looked fine.

This post has been edited by Black Boo on Apr 21 2008, 08:58 PM

You need to look at it from a spriter's point of view.

If people say it's ugly with pillow shading, than accept the fact. It's ugly with pillow shading!

Also, it's called critisism. People can critisize it anyway they want. You shouldn't try to sway them your way. NICKTendo already fixed it anyways, so no more arguing needed.

NOTE: There is no ****ing way that Animal crossing is pillow shaded! If it is shaded with respect to light, then that's a different story.

There. I think I'm done now, but you'll never know.

And yes, I can take a little critisism. It helps me improve.

This post has been edited by NICKtendo DS on Apr 21 2008, 09:17 PM

Putting the issue of p.s. behind, I just finished removing it from my tileset. (I think)

And yes, they did p.s. in AC WW. If you look at the edge of the grass to dirt, you'll see.

EDIT: Added cliffs and doomships. And for future reference, The bridge is NOT pillow shaded.

EDIT2: Added cloud, start point, and star warp.

This post has been edited by Black Boo on Apr 21 2008, 10:12 PM

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Idk if this is still WIP or not... Prolly will add more later.

kk i did the toad town thing and added more stuff xD

Why is everything made of grass

That's a "states the obvious moment."
I still don't believe you understand what pillow shading is.

Here's a link to help you understand:

http://www.natomic.com/hosted/marks/mpat/shading.html

Basically, it's saying don't make your light source the front of the screen, AKA. Light in the middle, dark on the edge.
If they pillow shade in Animal Crossing WW, then I must be in some other world.

Let me tell you a few things.

1. Animal Crossing is 3D. We're talking 2D.
2. It's kinda normal for dirt to be like that in real life, I believe.

Here's a random Animal Crossing Image:


In no way, is that pillow shading!

I think I clarified my point with 2 sources of reference..... x_x

This post has been edited by Soiyeruda on Apr 21 2008, 11:21 PM