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Posted: Apr 21 2008, 12:02 AM
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If they made a successor to brawl, which they probably will, what would the name be, and what characters would you expect to see that are new?

According to dictionary.com, Melee is a synonym to Brawl, along with fray, so I think it might be Super Smash Bros Fray laugh3.gif

As for characters, I'd expect like one more person from Fire Emblem, like...Sothe! The Rouge who is super fast, but is incredibly weak too......

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Posted: Apr 21 2008, 12:28 AM
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I seriously doubt there will be a successor, at least not one licensed with Nintendo characters. There may be ripoffs.

I personally think Brawl is how they should end the series.

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QUOTE (Joshua Werner @ Apr 21 2008, 01:28 AM)
I seriously doubt there will be a successor, at least not one licensed with Nintendo characters. There may be ripoffs.

I personally think Brawl is how they should end the series.

Short and Glitchy?


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QUOTE (OrangeNova @ Apr 21 2008, 12:34 AM)
Short and Glitchy?

and full of amazing content.


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Posted: Apr 21 2008, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE (quintorro @ Apr 21 2008, 01:40 AM)
and full of amazing content.

What amazing content?


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Posted: Apr 21 2008, 12:49 AM
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Sorry Nova, but I don't take one-sided bashing seriously. You should have learned that from any Sonic the Hedgehog game argument. All you're in this topic to do is say "No it's not" and tbh it's a bit annoying.

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QUOTE (Joshua Werner @ Apr 21 2008, 01:49 AM)
Sorry Nova, but I don't take one-sided bashing seriously. You should have learned that from any Sonic the Hedgehog game argument. All you're in this topic to do is say "No it's not" and tbh it's a bit annoying.

What?

I enjoy brawl.. or did, it got boring fast.. because it's essentially Melee with a few extras. And after years of playing Melee with friends.. Brawl wasn't a big enough change to make it feel like something new.

And what sonic arguments? I don't play enough sonic games to even bother with the topics.

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QUOTE (OrangeNova @ Apr 21 2008, 12:51 AM)
What?

I enjoy brawl.. or did, it got boring fast.. because it's essentially Melee with a few extras. And after years of playing Melee with friends.. Brawl wasn't a big enough change to make it feel like something new.

One question comes to mind when people make that comparison, Brawl is just Melee with more content, did you actually play Melee and Brawl at all? There are many key differences that you notice right off the bat especially when you start playing characters from the previous games... and a lot of extra content.

From the sounds of things you're labelling it as a minor port which is very inaccurate.
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Short and Glitchy?

Short? Melee is a lot shorter and you fault Brawl for this? Oh right, there were less methods to unlock characters and other things. What glitches are you talking about and are they even noticeable? The only "glitch" I've seen which I hear is actually intentional is tripping. That is pretty annoying, though.
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What amazing content?

This comment and the one above with no elaboration make your stance appear one-sided and makes it seem that you're just in the topic to bash the game in response to every positive comment that the game gets. That's what I meant in my post above.

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QUOTE (Joshua Werner @ Apr 21 2008, 02:01 AM)
One question comes to mind when people make that comparison, Brawl is just Melee with more content, did you actually play Melee and Brawl at all? There are many key differences that you notice right off the bat especially when you start playing characters from the previous games... and a lot of extra content.

From the sounds of things you're labelling it as a minor port which is very inaccurate.

Short? Melee is a lot shorter and you fault Brawl for this? Oh right, there were less methods to unlock characters and other things. What glitches are you talking about and are they even noticeable? The only "glitch" I've seen which I hear is actually intentional is tripping. That is pretty annoying, though.

This comment and the one above with no elaboration make your stance appear one-sided and makes it seem that you're just in the topic to bash the game in response to every positive comment that the game gets. That's what I meant in my post above.

Yeah, there are a lot of changes between the two, they're just subtle.. I mean, Crawling, a few changed moves, Slightly different physics and new items.(And i got the million match message in melee and all the chalenges done in brawl)

I'm not labeling it as a port(wtf) It just feels more like a Melee Expansion pack, whereas SSB to Melee felt like a full Upgrade. (SSB is to Diablo as SSBM is to Diablo 2, SSBM is to Diablo 2 as SSBB is to Diablo 2: LOD)

It took me QUITE a while to get everything in melee(Sure now i can do it in a day) but when the game first came out it took me like 3 weeks to get everything. and beat adventure classic and All-Star with everyone. Whereas with brawl it took me 6 hours to beat SSE, 9 hours to 100% it and 12 hours to unlock all the characters and stages.. and about 4 days for the challenges.

Also Theres the Time freeze glitch, Dedede's "Hay i has Dragoon", Giggalypuff and the Horrendus lag online.


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SSBB an expansion pack? Wtf, not discussing this at all with you anymore.

By the way, the horrendous lag is probably your connection! I have no issues. Dedede's trick is also intentional and not a glitch. And that's only if you have everything but the dragoon turned off that it happens often enough for you to even notice it.

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QUOTE (Joshua Werner @ Apr 21 2008, 02:12 AM)
SSBB an expansion pack? Wtf, not discussing this at all with you anymore.

By the way, the horrendous lag is probably your connection! I have no issues. Dedede's trick is also intentional and not a glitch. And that's only if you have everything but the dragoon turned off that it happens often enough for you to even notice it.

No, it's not the connection trust me, My $90 monthly internet connection says otherwise.

So it's the same as wavedashing.


And I don't see why I can't voice my own opinion.. ever.


EDIT: I also really dislike how they slowed the game down.

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QUOTE (OrangeNova @ Apr 21 2008, 01:16 AM)
And I don't see why I can't voice my own opinion.. ever.

Because you're actually wrong.

By saying SSBB is merely a Melee expansion pack that is.
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No, it's not the connection trust me, My $90 monthly internet connection says otherwise.

Well maybe it's also the people you're connecting with. Let me tell you that my internet connection does not cost $90 a month and I still have little to no trouble at all with lag. There's the occassional stutter and if that's what you're talking about, that's nitpicking. Seriously.
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So it's the same as wavedashing.

Umm, Dedede is a slow character with even slower attacks. I think it's pretty balanced but that's just my opinion. And if you don't think so, you are free to turn the Dragoon off. o.o;
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I also really dislike how they slowed the game down.

I really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now so I'm just not going to acknowledge this and further comments.

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QUOTE (Joshua Werner @ Apr 21 2008, 01:45 AM)
Because you're actually wrong.

By saying SSBB is merely a Melee expansion pack that is.

Well maybe it's also the people you're connecting with. Let me tell you that my internet connection does not cost $90 a month and I still have little to no trouble at all with lag. There's the occassional stutter and if that's what you're talking about, that's nitpicking. Seriously.

Umm, Dedede is a slow character with even slower attacks. I think it's pretty balanced but that's just my opinion. And if you don't think so, you are free to turn the Dragoon off. o.o;

I really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now so I'm just not going to acknowledge this and further comments.

You mad? Nova just expressed that he doesnt like how Smash had a flaw of being short. You're the f***ing one who started attacking him over it. He didn't want an arguement, and yet you decide to tell him off that he doesn't make any sense? Do you know that the only people who get irked by a single anonymous person's opinion and start attacking said person are people who sit around with the computer all day, doin' nothing else with their lives? You're going to be the longest lasting member on this forum if you keep this up.

I know you're gonna try to throw some comeback at me. And I know you're going to insist you're right no matter what. You're probably going to be right. Because of one reason only: You have nothing else to do.

I think as long as there's next generations of Nintendo games, there's going to be next Smash games. Simply put.

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Name? not sure... with sakurai, you can never guess anything XD (which is another thing, sakurai is most likely not gonna make the next smash so it'll either be the same thing, not worth it, or both)

characters? probably the same ones, with just maybe a little bit more. because, remember..balancing the characters increase exponentially with each additional character. with video games such as marvel vs. capcom 2 where you have an assload of characters, balance becomes a huge headache and is probably overlooked eventually..ending up with a broken and therefore unplayable game :X if anything, the next smash, if w'get one, should probably max out at 40 characters..as it isn't about how many people you can fit into the game, it's about the stages, items (even tourney-goers like to use items, aside from popular belief!) and fun.

also..more female characters, please. :C MEGA SAUSAGE FEST, seriously.


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QUOTE (OrangeNova @ Apr 20 2008, 10:51 PM)
\I enjoy brawl.. or did, it got boring fast.. because it's essentially Melee with a few extras.

Melee is essentially SSB with extras.
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QUOTE (Soiyeruda @ Apr 21 2008, 07:02 AM)
Also, we need more girls, though I can't think of anymore nintendo girls laugh3.gif

Captain Syrup (Wario Land)
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Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong Country 2)
That girl from Drill Dozer.

There are more Nintendo girls who have (a teensy weensy bit of) potential to be in a Smash Bros game, but I'm can't think of anymore.


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There won't be another one. Sakurai doesn't work for Nintendo, Nintendo don't seem to want to make any original games that don't have "Wii" attached to them and any fourth game would just be a repackaged third game with better graphix and one or two stupid characters. No chance that they'd get all those musicians again either.

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