Creationism and Evolutionism, DEBATE TIME !

if a god created the universe, people, animals and all that ****, who created God?

don't answer! IT'S A TRAP

no
evolution is not a religion.
evolution is not based on faith.
evolution is a scientific theory, which describes and is consistent with the vast, vast amount of evidence that has been found.
science is logical, and leaves very little room for error.

religion is based on faith.
religion deals with (if it's a well-behaved religion, anyway) spirituality, the supernatural, the afterlife, and things that cannot be observed, cannot be proven absolutely, and on the same note cannot be disproven by means of science.

it is foolish to put evolution, a very widely accepted scientific theory, on the same grounds as creationism, a stubborn attempt by the religious to contradict it.

Hmm... I got yelled at by this pastor for proving that evolution is quite in fact legit and real...

Religion cannot be proven "fact", so I don't know what you're talking about there.

Science can be and is proven factual. To ignore this is to be... ignorant. You can't deny fact because you feel that there is some otherworldly explanation for everything. I myself think that there is a God, but I find it very easy to accept that he isn't pulling strings 100% of the time. Religious fanaticism is a poison, really.

There is plenty of evidence that supports evolution, whereas it takes faith to believe in a religion. There's the difference that you need to grasp before assuming anything further.

It is impossible for any living being to fathom how anything started at all. Neither science or religion can prove anything as far as this goes. In science, this is called "theory". In religion it is called "mystery". Same concept, same answer: we don't know.

This post has been edited by Pucifur on May 21 2008, 09:34 PM

No one! God was always there, forever and ever!

Actually, you're the creationist. I'm not going to look up some evidence for what I don't believe in because I expect you to do it for me. Otherwise you're basically admitting your side is baseless because you can't prop it up.

That's how debate works, ace.

see: creatures that are clearly structurally related but found in completely different areas

Hear this from a strong Catholic:

I believe that frankly both theories can co-exist. People take parts of bible literally and some parts metophorically. I don't know who the idiot was that said and made it law in christianity that the book of Genesis is all literal. But yet people scrutinize text and share their hidden discoveries and say that thats the true meaning of whatever scripture they read.

We are not scientists. Scientists will happily accept -- and even outright search for -- evidence that contradicts them.

Politicians and debaters do not.

no.
the arguments made by creationists are false. the videos I linked illustrate nine of the "foundational falsehoods" of creationist claims.
watch them, you need to.
evolution is not the enemy of religion. if you have deep-seated religious beliefs, that's fine. do not use them to contradict reality. reality will win.

Hey guys we are totally focusing our arguments on to Giga Gamer,

And Giga if your gonna state somthing you better back it up with somthing...

mmm... I will laugh if scripture is posted...and Im christian by the way.

"In the Beginning..."

*secret handshake*

The "who created God" thing is my main one. If you're willing to accept that God encompasses time, how can you suddenly consider it wrong for us to say that the universe encompasses it?

how can he be there forever and ever? When did he exsist? why did he exsist? how did he exsist

For crying out loud!

Where did matter come from? It wasn't always here. No matter what way you go, you have to look at the spiritual side of things. Something was here since the beginning of time. And it makes more sense that that something is spiritual.

Only God knows the answer to this!

what if something always existed and there was never a point in time in which nothing existed

also if nothing existed then how is there supposed to be a supernatural being TO make things exist

it makes no sense and the next one who makes a stupid!

EDIT: did i miss half this topic oops

This post has been edited by Xgoff on May 21 2008, 09:38 PM

i think if you prayed to God, He would grant you holy grammatical skills



but yeah the point here that everybody has heard before is that if god can exist for no reason, then just as logically, the universe itself can exist for no reason too

Aren't these kinda debates banned from mfgg or something