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QUOTE (Razz @ May 21 2008, 09:37 PM)
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QUOTE (AirMan @ May 21 2008, 09:35 PM)
The "who created God" thing is my main one. If you're willing to accept that God encompasses time, how can you suddenly consider it wrong for us to say that the universe encompasses it?

"Infinite" is a term humans falsely believe that they can comprehend.


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QUOTE (Razz @ May 21 2008, 09:37 PM)
Aren't these kinda debates banned from mfgg or something

They should be, as well as all heathens!
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QUOTE (Giga Gamer @ May 21 2008, 07:36 PM)
And it makes more sense that this something is spiritual.

can you explain how this makes more sense than any other nonsensible explanation



see, if something has a logical fallacy, it is false. you do not have degrees of falsehood. It is right or it's not
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QUOTE (BreakMan @ May 21 2008, 09:35 PM)
how can he be there forever and ever? When did he exsist? why did he exsist? how did he exsist

Again I say:

It is impossible for any living being to fathom how anything started at all. Neither science or religion can prove anything as far as this goes. In science, this is called "theory". In religion it is called "mystery". Same concept, same answer: we don't know.


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http://www.creationism.org/genesis.htm'

More to come, but it's my bedtime now. Bye for tonight.

EDIT: Nevermind. I am not going to budge, clearly you are not going to budge, and nothing can come from this topic but pain and possible bans. Please, somebody lock this and forget anybody said anything.

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QUOTE (Giga Gamer @ May 21 2008, 07:36 PM)
For crying out loud!

Where did matter come from? It wasn't always here. No matter what way you go, you have to look at the spiritual side of things. Something was here since the beginning of time. And it makes more sense that that something is spiritual.

How are you sure that matter wasn't always here? The universe, as far as I can see, encompasses time. Time is part of the universe, so the universe stuck around for it. What was here since the beginning of time, then? The universe, naturally. Everything just repeats--you can call it spiritual if you want, but I just call it basic.


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QUOTE (Xloce @ May 21 2008, 07:37 PM)
"Infinite" is a term humans falsely believe that they can comprehend.

Infinite is a fabrication based on abstract concepts, like four dimensions

nobody has witnessed an actual instance of four dimensions. since they do not exist, how do you define them?
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QUOTE (Pucifur @ May 21 2008, 07:38 PM)
It is impossible for any living being to fathom how anything started at all.

yeah right
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Thanks Giga now we dont have a creationist to go against...
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QUOTE (Draco Icebane @ May 21 2008, 09:39 PM)
Infinite is a fabrication based on abstract concepts, like four dimensions

nobody has witnessed an actual instance of four dimensions. since they do not exist, how do you define them?

Exactly! In the end, countless theories of evolution are strived for based on the mentality that they cannot be disproven.

And unfortunately, if people look on the outside and just view their religion it almost screams to them that its just a made up explanation for that which is unknown.

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It's okay Giga Gamer, the first line in that website I think is convincing enough!
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QUOTE (Giga Gamer @ May 21 2008, 07:38 PM)
http://www.creationism.org/genesis.htm'

More to come, but it's my bedtime now. Bye for tonight.

EDIT: Nevermind. I am not going to budge, clearly you are not going to budge, and nothing can come from this topic but pain and possible bans. Please, somebody lock this and forget anybody said anything.

The point of debate is to get opinions out there so they can be judged, weighed, and interpreted.

Just because you're on a side with less evidence gives you no evidence to claim there's something wrong.


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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ May 21 2008, 07:41 PM)
It's okay Giga Gamer, the first line in that website I think is convincing enough!

do you mean the 404 - file not found part

or the actual page when the url is fixed
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QUOTE (Giga Gamer @ May 21 2008, 09:38 PM)
http://www.creationism.org/genesis.htm

More to come, but it's my bedtime now. Bye for tonight.

I see we have a literalist. The whole "the great flood is true!" thing just completely negates that entire page for me. If you can't look at the Bible in the context it was meant to be looked in, don't look at it at all. These stories (and yes, they're just stories) were passed down through oral tradition before humans wrote them down. They're meant to teach lessons, not to act as some obscure evidence supporting a religious ideal that you've blown out of proportion.


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That link is epic by the way

did it ever say the flood covered all of the world....?

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QUOTE (Giga Gamer @ May 21 2008, 10:38 PM)
http://www.creationism.org/genesis.htm'

More to come, but it's my bedtime now. Bye for tonight.

EDIT: Nevermind. I am not going to budge, clearly you are not going to budge, and nothing can come from this topic but pain and possible bans. Please, somebody lock this and forget anybody said anything.

404 - page not found.


ooh nice edit too, you make a fine example of the kinds of creationists that this guy describes. you refuse to acknowledge the evidence that you are wrong. you turn a blind eye to it, refuse to budge, and turn around and say "there's not enough evidence! evolution can't possibly be true" the next day.


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