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Posted: May 26 2008, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE (Labyrnth @ May 26 2008, 09:58 PM)
I rewrote it. Not copied it down.
You also sound like it was just images changed.
Maneesh did not have his images in a structured directory such as I do. So that is not possible without writing code. Also i hardly think the game can be written in 5 minutes by someone who is not completely familiar with the code.

Did i learn the language?
Thats kinda of a silly question. Im currently learning the language.
I have managed to write a trainer with the language.

In case your not sure what a trainer is. It is a small application used to alter memory on a targeted process. These i can write in Blitz,VB or autoit and C++ using a template.

But all in the mean while Im trying to learn to write games in blitz3d.

Don't worry I, 100 percent agree with you. Zero Kirby really has no idea what hes talking about. One look at his profile and seeing the line "Birthday 18 January 1993 " can explain a lot of things. The kid's on a power trip, a trip where he is completely wrong.


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Posted: May 26 2008, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE (Cellnkocane @ May 26 2008, 08:15 PM)
Don't worry I, 100 percent agree with you. Zero Kirby really has no idea what hes talking about. One look at his profile and seeing the line "Birthday 18 January 1993 " can explain a lot of things. The kid's on a power trip, a trip where he is completely wrong.

Your birthday? You're far too old for a Mario forum. Go away.

Age has nothing to do with anything, obviously, if your age isn't a lie. Because I do know what I'm talking about, and you can't prove me wrong unless you have some experience with the Blitz series of languages.

Stop posting unless you have experience with the Blitz series of languages, because obviously, if you don't, you're more than likely to be wrong.


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QUOTE (Zero Kirby @ May 26 2008, 10:19 PM)
Your birthday? You're far too old for a Mario forum. Go away.

Age has nothing to do with anything, obviously, if your age isn't a lie. Because I do know what I'm talking about, and you can't prove me wrong unless you have some experience with the Blitz series of languages.

Stop posting unless you have experience with the Blitz series of languages, because obviously, if you don't, you're more than likely to be wrong.

Thank you for completely proving my point.



And this is is about experience of Blitz language? I'm not sure what to even say to that.

If anything this is more about how you are being a complete idiot in every aspect of this topic.

Also, too old for Mario? Super Mario Bros. came out in 1985. How much more ignorance are you going to show us?


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Posted: May 26 2008, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (Cellnkocane @ May 26 2008, 08:28 PM)
Thank you for completely proving my point.



And this is is about experience of Blitz language? I'm not sure what to even say to that.

If anything this is more about how you are being a complete idiot in every aspect of this topic.

Also, too old for Mario? Super Mario Bros. came out in 1985. How much more ignorance are you going to show us?

Whatever. You guys just don't get it, so I'll post in really large capital letters, just to make sure my point gets through. I'll be as blunt as I can, even, because you're not getting my point and making it sharper will just go through without affecting you.

I CAN EASILY CHANGE THE GRAPHICS IN THIS GAME AND PROVE THAT ALL LABYRNTH REALLY DID WAS MAKE A SIMPLE PAINT JOB. ANYONE COULD HAVE DONE THIS, EVEN WITHOUT EDITING THE ACTUAL CODE. IF YOU WANT ME TO PROVE IT, I WILL.


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QUOTE (Zero Kirby @ May 26 2008, 10:31 PM)
Whatever. You guys just don't get it, so I'll post in really large capital letters, just to make sure my point gets through. I'll be as blunt as I can, even, because you're not getting my point and making it sharper will just go through without affecting you.

I CAN EASILY CHANGE THE GRAPHICS IN THIS GAME AND PROVE THAT ALL LABYRNTH REALLY DID WAS MAKE A SIMPLE PAINT JOB. ANYONE COULD HAVE DONE THIS, EVEN WITHOUT EDITING THE ACTUAL CODE. IF YOU WANT ME TO PROVE IT, I WILL.

Well, while you are doing us favors, how about you stop being a tool and leave the thread?

And Labyrnth, where did you get that cool sig?


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Posted: May 26 2008, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (Cellnkocane @ May 26 2008, 08:35 PM)
Well, while you are doing us favors, how about you stop being a tool and leave the thread?

And Labyrnth, where did you get that cool sig?

Alright, well with that, I'm going to do it.

I'm going to download Lab's file, edit it, re-upload it, and prove to you all that I damn well knew what I was talking about.

I'll expect an apology and a locking of this topic soon after.

Mods, Admins, if you're reading this, let me prove my worth.

By edit it, I mean REPLACE ALL THE GRAPHICS AND SOUNDS WITHOUT TOUCHING THE SOURCE CODE.

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QUOTE (Zero Kirby @ May 26 2008, 10:40 PM)
Alright, well with that, I'm going to do it.

I'm going to download Lab's file, edit it, re-upload it, and prove to you all that I damn well knew what I was talking about.

I'll expect an apology and a locking of this topic soon after.

Mods, Admins, if you're reading this, let me prove my worth.

By edit it, I mean REPLACE ALL THE GRAPHICS AND SOUNDS WITHOUT TOUCHING THE SOURCE CODE.

Who are you trying to prove.


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Posted: May 26 2008, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE (Cellnkocane @ May 26 2008, 08:51 PM)
Who are you trying to prove.

To you and Lab.

Why? Do you not believe me when I say I can?


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QUOTE (Zero Kirby @ May 26 2008, 10:59 PM)
To you and Lab.

Why? Do you not believe me when I say I can?

It wasn't a question.


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Posted: May 26 2008, 11:09 PM
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Well, whatever.

I went and did it. If you still don't think I knew what I was talking about after this, then it's useless to try talking to you anymore.

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@Cellnkocane I made my sig with Photoshop about 2 years ago.

Kirby, you need to settle down and see how you strait attacked me without even asking how i did the game.
This is the whole issue.

You still are not listening, THE SOURCE FROM THE BOOK DOES NOT HAVE A DATA STRUCTURE. ALL OF THE IMAGES AND SOUND ARE IN 1 FOLDER. MINE ARE CLEARLY SEPARATED INTO FOLDERS. YOU HAVE TO CHANGE CODE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.

The books you buy for any type of programming are open source.
If you really want to get technical about copy write this whole site is seriously out of bounce with some of the sprites it has.
But who cares really?
The site is great and people here try and keep it this way.
But if you continue to blast out like this to people. You will see this type of retaliation anywheres online.

Let me give a little background info about me.
Then you can draw your conclusions from that instead of what im trying to learn.


Started as a gamer. Loved it.
Got into modding games. Such as the old Grand Theft Auto and several other games up to medal of Honor allied assault.
This is when things got more interesting. I got into doing mapping with radiant.
Modding C script for this game and even doing wall hacks and bypassing anti cheat scanners for this game.
From there i learned to hack games. Basically hacked anything i looked at.
Didnt stop there, got into reverse engineering also. Cracking/debugging and packet editing a little bit.
So currently my skills are in game hacking and debugging/reversing using Ollydbg and memory scanners. I have written numerous tutorials helping others learn to do what i have done. Even make releases as well.
93 tutorials written or video recorded & 39 trainers/hacks released. "Just whats on my personal site and some are one megagames.com and other sites below.

All of this has led me to want to write a game. So now i looked around and tested languages to see what i seem to pick up on an understand. This leads me to blitz.
I even own Darkbasic Pro. But currently do not do anything with this software.

So what im trying to say is. You never know who you are meeting online or know the persons knowledge or how they done something without asking.
Some may share, some may not. I do not see myself as ripping anything, since i take so much time and pride to show the work i do. I tend to teach people what i learned.
Now that this is in the open I hope I do not get a bunch of non cheating haters.
I am however good at what i do, not the best or elite by far. It takes work to be able to do what i do. Defeat DMA or CodeShifting, alter assembly/bytes of memory to make a program or game do what it want it to do. Reverse engineer applications/game clients to run dual/multi clients. Also crack applications, such a trail times for games from reflexive.com and Bigfish. Even messed with some Xbox modding and save game hacking.
How assembly code flows behind the scenes, is something no ones see's and is very interesting to me. So you can say i know a bit of assembly as well.
Of course i would have to, in order to alter it right?

And i am now trying to gain knowledge of game programming like i want.
All i want from you is the same respect everyone else gets in this site.
If you want any proof of what I say about my background of my online life, since you are very skeptical.
Visit any of these sites and look me up. I have no reason to lie on anything i say.
Im just a person who wants to get into something i have always wanted to do.
Maybe even you have wondered how people did hacks. Who knows, but people you meet can teach you things if you dont stomp on them.
If not, then maybe you wanted to do anti cheat systems for a game?
Well it is all the same field. How would you stop a hack if you didin't know how to make one? For me it was to do both.

www.extalia.com
www.cheatengine.org "Forums"
www.gamehacking.com
http://laby.proboards23.com/

Go look me up as i use the same name. Labyrnth or Lab
You will see who and how I am around people.
Im not looking for an apology at all. Just some people to look up too at the moment in my learning curve.

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Listen, dude.

I don't care about your life story. All I care about is what you do with what you want to do; to create games.

I seriously respect you for trying to learn code. I truly, truly do. I think it's great to see people reaching out of game making utilities and trying to play with the big leagues. It's just, I'd like to see something that didn't come out of a book.

You're not looking for an apology, so I won't give it to you. However, I want to encourage you to not give up, and create something original, completely original, not just something with a new paint job on it.

I'm just trying to say that this wasn't a good start, and pointed out why, and you guys were actually the ones who attacked me.

Wait, actually, you didn't really attack me, Cellincokaine did. Okay? I don't blame you for defending yourself, and I thank you, actually, for approaching this much more level-headed than I did and not going down the detrimental path me and Cellin did.

Just, next time, I want to see something really neat and original out of you, and I bet you can do it if you don't give up.

So don't give up.


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actually ignore this post

didn't see zk's

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QUOTE (Razz @ May 26 2008, 09:37 PM)
guys

relax

You know what

I'm kinda glad I was eventually forced to edit the game

It's kinda funny to see a bunch of Pac-Men his transparent Yoshi's over and over and over with weird sounds and George the Volcano singing along the the Mega Man VII Opening Theme.


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Visit Just Another Just Another Day - The Webcomic!

Super Mario Zero: Game Status (RAZZ Y U STEALING MAH FORMAT BRO)
Mario Object: Pretty much finished!
Enemy Objects: [||||||||--] Just gonna add Spinies, Bullet Bills and Cheep Cheeps!
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General Engine: [|||||||||-] Ranking System Complete! Gonna add pipes!
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QUOTE (Zero Kirby @ May 26 2008, 11:32 PM)
Listen, dude.

I don't care about your life story. All I care about is what you do with what you want to do; to create games.

I seriously respect you for trying to learn code. I truly, truly do. I think it's great to see people reaching out of game making utilities and trying to play with the big leagues. It's just, I'd like to see something that didn't come out of a book.

You're not looking for an apology, so I won't give it to you. However, I want to encourage you to not give up, and create something original, completely original, not just something with a new paint job on it.

I'm just trying to say that this wasn't a good start, and pointed out why, and you guys were actually the ones who attacked me.

Wait, actually, you didn't really attack me, Cellincokaine did. Okay? I don't blame you for defending yourself, and I thank you, actually, for approaching this much more level-headed than I did and not going down the detrimental path me and Cellin did.

Just, next time, I want to see something really neat and original out of you, and I bet you can do it if you don't give up.

So don't give up.

Way to completely be an a-hole even more.

And I didn't "attack" you first, it would be the other way around. If anything, I "finished" it about 7 times over now. So why don't you stop being a dill weed.


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Reality no ones first game is very good. In fact reading any of the books i have on game programming makes this very clear. Your first game will not be much.
So yeah, i have allot to do.


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QUOTE (Cellnkocane @ May 26 2008, 09:52 PM)
Way to completely be an a-hole even more.

And I didn't "attack" you first, it would be the other way around. If anything, I "finished" it about 7 times over now. So why don't you stop being a dill weed.

I'm being an asshole? I'm encouraging him!

I think you need to leave, man, because seriously, I'm trying to calm down and work things out with him, and you're trying to create friction.

Also, you were the first one to throw an insult. You never finished anything. I proved that I knew what I was talking about, I proved you wrong, and that's that. Move on, you lost, get over it, I wouldn't worry about it! Come on! It's the Internet! Internet arguments are stupid.

@ Labyrnth: ... You aren't seriously going to try all that out, are you?

I mean, it's good to have a wide range of skill, but that's... a lot...


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Super Mario Zero: Game Status (RAZZ Y U STEALING MAH FORMAT BRO)
Mario Object: Pretty much finished!
Enemy Objects: [||||||||--] Just gonna add Spinies, Bullet Bills and Cheep Cheeps!
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QUOTE (Labyrnth @ May 26 2008, 11:53 PM)
Reality no ones first game is very good. In fact reading any of the books i have on game programming makes this very clear. Your first game will not be much.
So yeah, i have allot to do.


Blitz Related:
Blitz3D & BlitzMax Softeware
Blitz3D Game Programming Manual
Game Programming For Teens
Game Programming for Teens Second Edition
3D game programming for Teens

DarkBasic Related:
Hands on DarkBasic Pro Manual Vol 1
Dark Basic Game Programming
FPS Creator Software

Visual Basic 6 Related:
Visual Basic Game Programming With DirectX
Visual Basic Game Programming for Teens
Visual Basic Game Programming "VB5"

Torque Engine: Laggy....
3D Game programming All in One

C++ Related: Suxors....
Teach Yourself Game programming

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FPS Creator is sick, I downloaded that + all of the offical expansion packs (and custom ones like this sweet haunted house pack) from some guys blog and made some sick levels. One level I made exactly my old high school... although I didn't "shoot the school up", I saved it from mindless storm troopers.


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QUOTE (Zero Kirby @ May 26 2008, 11:58 PM)
I'm being an asshole? I'm encouraging him!

I think you need to leave, man, because seriously, I'm trying to calm down and work things out with him, and you're trying to create friction.

Also, you were the first one to throw an insult. You never finished anything. I proved that I knew what I was talking about, I proved you wrong, and that's that. Move on, you lost, get over it, I wouldn't worry about it! Come on! It's the Internet! Internet arguments are stupid.

@ Labyrnth: ... You aren't seriously going to try all that out, are you?

I mean, it's good to have a wide range of skill, but that's... a lot...

You aren't fooling anyone. Do you take us for idiots?

Edit: You also have no clue about me. Assuming I never finished a single project in my life? Kid, I know programming languages, you know game creator, I wouldn't be talking.

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QUOTE (Cellnkocane @ May 26 2008, 10:00 PM)
You aren't fooling anyone. Do you take us for idiots?

I'm not trying to fool anyone, really.

I think you're fooling yourself.

Oh, hey, good luck, Lab, on future projects.


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Falcon Punch is the result of the Sun heating fists. It drives the Blue Falcon. Heating causes destruction of water into the pain, where it then hurts, creating rain. Rain creates flowing water in tears, which can then be converted into other forms through more pain.

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Super Mario Zero: Game Status (RAZZ Y U STEALING MAH FORMAT BRO)
Mario Object: Pretty much finished!
Enemy Objects: [||||||||--] Just gonna add Spinies, Bullet Bills and Cheep Cheeps!
Boss Fights: None in progress.
General Engine: [|||||||||-] Ranking System Complete! Gonna add pipes!
Levels Complete: [|---------] Haven't even finished the tutorial!
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