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Youngmario98	Posted: May 24 2008, 08:04 PM
Standard Member Group: Members Posts: 41 Member No.: 4866 Joined: 25-December 07 Status: (0d)	Is it legal to rip sprites on emulators? If not, then close this topic. -------------------- Poor Luigi he will never be as good as Mario! Luigi should be as good as Mario. Yay over 20 posts!!!!

Giygas	Posted: May 24 2008, 08:10 PM
Standard Member Group: Members Posts: 910 Member No.: 4767 Joined: 24-November 07 Status: (0d)	How do you think people rip sprites at all.

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technically you're violating their copyright on the material regardless of how you rip it
but they don't seem to care

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Zero Kirby	Posted: May 24 2008, 08:34 PM
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Posted: May 24 2008, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE (Zero Kirby @ May 24 2008, 09:34 PM)

It's illegal just to have the ROMs on your computer.

So, I feel the following word is appropriate...

Duh.

no it isn't.

the method of obtaining them is important here, as is your purpose in having the copies on file.

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Harley Quinn	Posted: May 24 2008, 09:14 PM
Oh, nostalgia Group: Members Posts: 1676 Member No.: 2821 Joined: 17-October 06 Status: (0d)	I believe with ROMs you can have them legally if yo have a copy from the the company that created the in the beginning... Like if you have SMRPG, legally you have to have the cartridge as well And it depends the way you ripp them i think This post has been edited by LakiPlant on May 24 2008, 09:14 PM

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Posted: May 25 2008, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE (LakiPlant @ May 25 2008, 05:14 AM)

I believe with ROMs you can have them legally if yo have a copy from the the company that created the in the beginning... Like if you have SMRPG, legally you have to have the cartridge as well

ROMs are illegal under any circumstances.

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B.M.	Posted: May 25 2008, 03:28 PM
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Posted: May 25 2008, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE (Ultramario @ May 25 2008, 09:19 PM)

ROMs are illegal under any circumstances.

Actually I'm pretty sure Lakiplant is right, though it might differ from country to country.

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Miaxis	Posted: May 25 2008, 03:46 PM
hagan bromas Group: Members Posts: 1799 Member No.: 2793 Joined: 12-October 06 Status: (0d)	I think because Nintendo holds the copyright of it it´s illegal. --------------------

Glukom	Posted: May 25 2008, 04:19 PM
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Posted: May 25 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE (Ultramario @ May 25 2008, 04:19 PM)

ROMs are illegal under any circumstances.

wrong

QUOTE (Glukom @ May 25 2008, 05:19 PM)

Places will tell you that it's fine to have them if you have a copy of the real game, but it's not. Roms are always illegal.

again, wrong

the files themselves are fine to have. you're allowed to make yourself a backup copy of your game for personal use.
you're not allowed to share it with other people. that's illegal.

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Posted: May 25 2008, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE (Lightning @ May 25 2008, 09:20 PM)

wrong

again, wrong

the files themselves are fine to have. you're allowed to make yourself a backup copy of your game for personal use.
you're not allowed to share it with other people. that's illegal.

That would apply to movies, ROMs are ok to have only if you own the carthridge of the game making LakiPlant correct.

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Posted: May 25 2008, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE (phazonluigi @ May 25 2008, 10:27 PM)

That would apply to movies, ROMs are ok to have only if you own the carthridge of the game making LakiPlant correct.

no.

how are copies of game cartridges any different from copies of movies?

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Elyk	Posted: May 25 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ May 25 2008, 09:31 PM)

no.

how are copies of game cartridges any different from copies of movies?

You're saying that he is completely wrong but not Completely it IS meant as a backup in-case any damage to the game carthridge is done, if he does not have a copy and downloads it, it is illegal.

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Posted: May 25 2008, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE (Elyk @ May 25 2008, 09:34 PM)

If you rip the rom yourself.

Which is illegal.

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Draco Icebane	Posted: May 25 2008, 11:19 PM
Standard Member Group: Banned Posts: 52997 Member No.: 10 Joined: 13-October 03 Status: (71582612m)	Guys, please stop this argument. This is very silly. Whether it is actually illegal to dump your own copy of a ROM from a cartridge you own is entirely irrelevant, because the owner of the software will not waste resources prosecuting you unless you significantly threaten their profit by publicly distributing that ROM. Ripping the sprite resources from a ROM image are a legal grey area and in the end, it depends whose sprites you are ripping. For example, Capcom has made it clear that as long as credit is given where due, they do not mind the use of their sprites in fangames. It is possible that legal technicalities will allow an unrelated legal organization to prosecute you in Capcom's name regardless of their intentions, but not enough of a threat for concern. Also, before you state "all ROM's are illegal", please remember there are also homebrew ROM's. This post has been edited by Draco Icebane on May 25 2008, 11:20 PM

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