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Cellnkocane	Posted: May 26 2008, 04:18 PM
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Miaxis	Posted: May 26 2008, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE (Latia @ May 26 2008, 04:33 PM)

Get djrelliks engine,it has exact physics from SMB3.

I don't use gamecreator, does djrellik have all his variables printed out somewhere?

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Elyk	Posted: May 26 2008, 07:23 PM
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I as well want to know the physics of Mario (and other characters.) Since The Mushroom Kingdom had the jumping distances of Mario in their SMB Complete Guide, I wanted to know Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels jumping of Luigi's. So I mailed them with the question. They didn't tell me it but the showed me how to:

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Um, hi I'm trying to make a Mario project but I'm short on info.
1) Can you get me the jumping physics of "Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels" (NES versions)'s Luigi like you did with Mario on Super Mario Bros. Complete Guide .
2) Using NES SMB1 Mario, can you get me the speed of Mario walking and running based on "Blocks (or pixels) per minute"
3) If you have any/both of what I'm looking for, can you show me how you did them so I can do it myself (I'm thinking of doing "Super Mario Bros. 2" and "Super Paper Mario" by myself)
Thank you for your time,
- Wario Bros.

Luigison: 1) I'm not going to go into the way TMK did it, but here is a low tech way you can get a pretty accurate measurement without software or emulators. Tape some thin paper or clear plastic to your TV screen so that you can see Luigi through the paper/plastic while playing SMB:LL. Find a location in the game where you can jump unencumbered. On the paper/plastic mark the level of the brick Luigi is standing on. Press the jump button. With your other hand mark the maximum height of his jump from the bottom of his feet. If needed you can make a VHS recording or have a friend help. Now do the same thing, but with walking and running jumps. Also mark the range he jumped. Count the pixels of his jumps based on a reference block like the wall or floor.
2) Do the same thing you did above, but don't jump. The distance should be easy to measure, but the time will be a little less accurate because of your reaction time. A VCR that shows actual seconds might help.
3) Repeat one and two above with other games.

MEGAß¥TE: I'm going to assume that he probably doesn't have a Japanese copy of Super Mario Bros. 2. In which case, you can make the task Luigison outlined easier by slowing down the emulation speed.

I hope this helps

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Hohoo	Posted: May 29 2008, 10:10 AM
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Black Squirrel	Posted: May 29 2008, 12:18 PM
Vote 1924 Group: Admins Posts: 16468 Member No.: 785 Joined: 16-January 05 Status: (0d)	Erm, wouldn't speed depend on the game and refresh rate? SMB1 50Hz will have different physics than SMB3 60Hz. To be honest although it would probably be nice to have a perfect engine somewhere I don't think anyone would really care that much if it's a few pixels off or whatever. As long as it "feels" good. tbh I wouldn't recommend having an exact engine anyway, I mean how boring is that? The only time I would think it would be super-useful is if you're doing some fancy hack, but then it probably doesn't matter because it's right there in front of you. But yeah best choice would be to learn how to hack and take values from a real game. Or do a bunch of screenshots and measure. I dunno. -------------------- [ I am Black Squirrel, read about me \| Blog Squirrel \| The Obscure Ripping Project ] [ SHPDMBGWL4 \| Super MFGG War \| Player Adventure ]