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Posted: Jun 7 2008, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Light @ Jun 7 2008, 11:06 PM)
Somewhat Brawl Tier Related

Okay, honestly, contribute something.
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Posted: Jun 7 2008, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jun 7 2008, 11:29 PM)
...Kirby isn't that good. Toon Link really isn't either, Marth is much different.

toon link is pretty much ****ing marth except in exchange for a counter, he gets projectiles, which in my opinion are greater than counter



yoshi in high teir? i lol'd

he isn't bottom but maybe low or med





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Posted: Jun 7 2008, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE (false @ Jun 7 2008, 11:16 PM)
toon link is pretty much ****ing marth except in exchange for a counter, he gets projectiles, which in my opinion are greater than counter



yoshi in high teir? i lol'd

he isn't bottom but maybe low or med

Have you fought someone who actually uses Yoshi well? He's much better than people make him out to be, since he's actually pretty heavy, has lots of invincibility frames in random moves, and is amazing for doing combos. Toon Link is very different, just because they both have swords doesn't mean anything.
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Posted: Jun 7 2008, 11:33 PM
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well on tiers i wont deny they exist but it's like guns it doesn't matter how good they are, it's the user



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Posted: Jun 7 2008, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE (false @ Jun 7 2008, 11:33 PM)
well on tiers i wont deny they exist but it's like guns it doesn't matter how good they are, it's the user

...I said this in the first post?
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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 07:24 AM
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Probably swap Wolf and Falco

Falco is not as good as he was in Melee because his refleector is now no longer stationary

He is pretty slow compared to melee and he can be really bad in the hands of someone who isn't good with him.

Wolf, on the other hand...
His Up smash can be used often and that is really powerful. His other smash attacks are very powerful.

His reflector has a larger range than Fox's if attacking with it.

He may be slow, but he is fast enoughto be a top tier

I always feel guilty when I use wolf because it's almost a fact that I will win


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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 08:20 AM
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Here I find yet again Ganondorf at the bottom of a list some chumps made up, with obvious delusions he's THAT good he can assess every character!

I think we should put it to the test Delly, your Jiggers vs my big G, see if I can change your mind? soveryhappy.gif
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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 08:55 AM
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So basically my favorite character is the lowest of the low. :<


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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 09:36 AM
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Wow my best characters are from medium to bottom tier (in your opinion). I hate how Yoshi keeps getting underestimated.


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QUOTE (Hausuke @ Jun 8 2008, 05:36 PM)
Wow my best characters are from medium to bottom tier (in your opinion). I hate how Yoshi keeps getting underestimated.

Yoshi is one of my best characters too (in Melee at least)


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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jun 7 2008, 11:18 PM)
Have you fought someone who actually uses Yoshi well? He's much better than people make him out to be, since he's actually pretty heavy, has lots of invincibility frames in random moves, and is amazing for doing combos.

I frickin hate Yoshi.

Theres just no countering that egg roll offensively like you can with Jigglypuff and Sonic when they really get it going, you pretty much just have to jump out of the way.

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Sonic - (Sonic isn't awful, but he isn't that great. While really fast and can add up damage to those that stay on the ground, he has somewhat of a problem with those that hang in the air, and it's pretty difficult to kill people with him, as you need proper timing for most of his moves to actually kill.)

I'll agree with this.

Sonic can rack up damage just fine but trying to get him to be still long enough to knock somebody off screen on the ground can be frustrating sometimes.

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You know it's funny, some characters are too slow to be a higher tier, yet Sonic is...Too fast.


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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 02:46 PM
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I think Sonic's got the speed I need.


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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (Toadster @ Jun 8 2008, 07:24 AM)
Probably swap Wolf and Falco

Falco is not as good as he was in Melee because his refleector is now no longer stationary

You're right, he's even better, since now he can hit people and combo with the move.

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He is pretty slow compared to melee and he can be really bad in the hands of someone who isn't good with him.


Compared to Melee. In Brawl he's faster than most characters, and the point here isn't if you're bad with him, it's who has the most potential really.

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I always feel guilty when I use wolf because it's almost a fact that I will win


Yeah uh, that's not a valid reason here!

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Here I find yet again Ganondorf at the bottom of a list some chumps made up, with obvious delusions he's THAT good he can assess every character!

I think we should put it to the test Delly, your Jiggers vs my big G, see if I can change your mind?  soveryhappy.gif

Uh, I guess that could help, since I threw Captain Falcon on here higher after playing Cutman, but I don't know if you're gonna run away like he did!

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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 04:09 PM
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HAHA have to see won't we, I'll pm you my code later. I don't think you can say someone "ran away" after they beat you eh?
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QUOTE (Doctor Octopus @ Jun 8 2008, 04:09 PM)
HAHA have to see won't we, I'll pm you my code later. I don't think you can say someone "ran away" after they beat you eh?

I dunno, considering all the other games he lost.
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jun 8 2008, 03:32 PM)
Compared to Melee. In Brawl he's faster than most characters, and the point here isn't if you're bad with him, it's who has the most potential really.


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QUOTE (Toadster @ Jun 8 2008, 04:17 PM)
yeah he's faster than most characters

That's just for running speed, not his attack speeds.
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Posted: Jun 8 2008, 06:27 PM
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