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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:17 PM
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People that do nothing but complain and complain and complain, but they never want to DO anything. They don't even complain to the people who are part of the problem! They just complain and ***** and whine about things to people that probably could not give a **** less.

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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Jun 13 2008, 09:16 PM)
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That's the definition, yes, but this is hacking a board with the express purpose of banning people who may not deserve it.

Others are involved who would be affected in a negative way.

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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jun 13 2008, 10:17 PM)
That's the definition, yes, but this is hacking a board with the express purpose of banning people who may not deserve it.

Others are involved who would be affected in a negative way.

/argument

. except that's not what "hack" means and being a hacker myself I take offense to that

http://archive.mfgg.net/index.php?sh...dpost&p=2910840

I don't break security to do unethical things, that's cracking
not hacking


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Jun 13 2008, 09:20 PM)
. except that's not what "hack" means and being a hacker myself I take offense to that

http://archive.mfgg.net/index.php?sh...dpost&p=2910840

I don't break security to do unethical things, that's cracking
not hacking

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Hacking
Unauthorized use, or attempts to circumvent or bypass the security mechanisms of an information system or network.

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/pubs/compsec...y/glossary.html

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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jun 13 2008, 10:22 PM)

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/pubs/compsec...y/glossary.html

ta. da.

grats citing a texan law page
they sure know what they're talking about in texas when it comes to computers!

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack.html
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/appendixc.html

a few relevant pages from the Jargon File.


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Jun 13 2008, 09:26 PM)
grats citing a texan law page
they sure know what they're talking about in texas when it comes to computers!

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack.html
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/appendixc.html

a few relevant pages from the Jargon File.

So you dismiss something just because you disagree with it? You're a pretty cool dude. cool2.gif


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jun 13 2008, 10:27 PM)
So you dismiss something just because you disagree with it? You're a pretty cool dude. :cool:

... wat

could you explain this post I don't understand what you're getting at


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jun 13 2008, 10:27 PM)
So you dismiss something just because you disagree with it? You're a pretty cool dude. cool2.gif

.. isn't that exactly what you're doing, though?


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE (TenguMan @ Jun 13 2008, 09:31 PM)
.. isn't that exactly what you're doing, though?

Actually, no.

I know what hacking is and nothing written by a hacker who says that hacking isn't actually hacking is going to change that.


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jun 13 2008, 10:33 PM)
Actually, no.

I know what hacking is and nothing written by a hacker who says that hacking isn't actually hacking is going to change that.

are you this thick irlz
seriously I am finding you quite offensive and am pondering reporting your post !!!!!!! >=L

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"Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis." - Sigmund Freud
“It is not by delusion, however exalted, that mankind can prosper, but only by unswerving courage in the pursuit of truth.” - Bertrand Russell
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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jun 13 2008, 06:33 PM)
Actually, no.

I know what hacking is and nothing written by a hacker who says that hacking isn't actually hacking is going to change that.

fyi

people like you are why people like me left
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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE (HardMan @ Jun 13 2008, 10:36 PM)
fyi

people like you are why people like me left

... wasn't I gonna leave when duckboy got b&

wow I must've forgotten to actually do it


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"Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis." - Sigmund Freud
“It is not by delusion, however exalted, that mankind can prosper, but only by unswerving courage in the pursuit of truth.” - Bertrand Russell
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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Jun 13 2008, 06:37 PM)
... wasn't I gonna leave when duckboy got b&

wow I must've forgotten to actually do it

i assume a while back you thought it would be worthwhile if you could open some eyes
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You made a complaint topic about complaining, and in your first post you were complaining about complaining people.


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE (HardMan @ Jun 13 2008, 10:38 PM)
i assume a while back you thought it would be worthwhile if you could open some eyes

right right right that must've been it
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"Religion is comparable to a childhood neurosis." - Sigmund Freud
“It is not by delusion, however exalted, that mankind can prosper, but only by unswerving courage in the pursuit of truth.” - Bertrand Russell
“To kill an error is as good a service as, and sometimes better than, the establishing of a new truth or fact.” - Charles Darwin
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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Jun 13 2008, 10:26 PM)
grats citing a texan law page
they sure know what they're talking about in texas when it comes to computers!

Even though I agree that "hacker" when properly defined means what you say it means, that link right there is quite honestly stupid (seems like the "lol @ people who take religion seriously" nonsense again, and also seems rather elitist toward non-computer-savvy folks).

Also as a native Texan I take some offense to the popular tendency to sneer at Texans.


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (Lightning @ Jun 13 2008, 09:20 PM)
. except that's not what "hack" means and being a hacker myself I take offense to that

http://archive.mfgg.net/index.php?sh...dpost&p=2910840

I don't break security to do unethical things, that's cracking
not hacking

May I ask, why exactly do you take offense to that?


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE (Grant @ Jun 13 2008, 10:51 PM)
Even though I agree that "hacker" when properly defined means what you say it means, that link right there is quite honestly stupid (seems like the "lol @ people who take religion seriously" nonsense again, and also seems rather elitist toward non-computer-savvy folks).

Also as a native Texan I take some offense to the popular tendency to sneer at Texans.

sry

I guess a better point to make is mainstream media and sometimes even public officials are ignorant to this terminology

but citing a texan page that had some ignorant things on it about hacking just reminded me of that amusing anecdote tbqh I felt it would be an entertaining read for people reading my post in this thread


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“To kill an error is as good a service as, and sometimes better than, the establishing of a new truth or fact.” - Charles Darwin
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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (Mr.Cintrak @ Jun 13 2008, 09:55 PM)
May I ask, why exactly do you take offense to that?

Because it probably ticks him off to see people misusing the word "Hacker".


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Posted: Jun 13 2008, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (Ness @ Jun 13 2008, 06:59 PM)
Because it probably ticks him off to see people misusing the word "Hacker".

makes sense to me
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