Game Maker vs. Clickteam products, Which one is better in your opinion?

Most Biased Post EVAH! Jking, only the Downsides are Biased.

This post has been edited by OniLink10 on Jul 9 2008, 01:00 PM

i don't get the whole "but you have to use extensions" thing, because:

1. i consider ALL code-carrying objects in MMF extensions (including things like the system objects and active objects, etc), they may be compiled inside MMF itself but i'd be surprised if they weren't coded like regular extensions; so yes, no matter what you do (unless you're making a blank app with no code, you're using extensions

2. if MMF doesn't natively support something, extensions can usually add that support. occasionally CT effectively renders an extension obsolete by adding all or most of the functionality of that object to MMF (such as the fastloop object)

3. they're DLLs so they (usually) don't have to wait for some command from MMF to do something; it's not like they hold up the runtime engine or anything (but it's possible to make one that does so)

4. they can directly manipulate practically anything in the runtime engine, which makes a huge difference in speed. take that weegee/zimmer thing i made: the first one basically had lua+ call a function for X amount of objects 60 times per second, ie with 200 objects, MMF was getting 12000 function calls per second, which on my computer was about the upper limit to keep 60FPS. the second time, i rewrote it using lua+'s MMF interface (basically giving it direct access to objects' data), which allowed it to run 500 objects at 60FPS (didn't stress test it with more objects since 500 was already 450 more than i was planning on using at one time, anyway)

5. they generally don't add that much size to the exe (since each extension is only stored once, and the runtime versions have things like menus and dialogs removed)

6. it's easy as hell to find them: there's 4 packs linked to on CT's forums and the rest can either be downloaded individually as needed from the extension list site or mass downloaded through Fusion Updater

EDIT: in short, they're no different than using DLLs in GM

This post has been edited by Xgoff on Jul 9 2008, 01:38 PM

A bit off topic, but no wonder saving was always so nice in TSB! Save files have always been my worst enemy in all games, except TSB. I probably would not have bothered to finish it, if I had been losing my save file every time I played.

But on topic, my various earlier posts convey my opinions.