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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:14 AM
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****, we're ****ed.

Atleast us in the US.


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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:16 AM
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so

how are we ****ed?

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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:18 AM
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It's the same thing they've been doing for a while now, but this time it's "legal."


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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:19 AM
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how does this effect us in any way


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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (Promenade @ Jul 9 2008, 10:19 PM)
how does this effect us in any way

affect


it just makes wiretapping legal under certain circumstances, when it's been done a lot anyway


also, wiretapping overseas is now more restricted
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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE (Draco Icebane @ Jul 10 2008, 12:21 AM)
affect

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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:26 AM
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Yeah, wiretapping is now legal. That means that if you find out that your phone is being tapped, it's legal, and you can't take action against the phone company.


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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:27 AM
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QUOTE (ndsfreak @ Jul 9 2008, 10:26 PM)
Yeah, wiretapping is now legal. That means that if you find out that your phone is being tapped, it's legal, and you can't take action against the phone company.

And there isn't much reason you would want to either, considering this is meant for suspected terrorists.


And it's not like a random body off the street can legally tap your phone, you know. Certain companies are granted immunity from the wire-tapping laws, it's not "WIRE-TAPPING IS LEGAL GO CRAZY WOOO"
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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:31 AM
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Biggest ****ing assault on the constitution in ever.
Might as well use parts of it as toilet paper now that important aspects have been rendered useless.

Long story short:
If you're suspected of being a terrorist, any kind of threat to the US, or whatever, the government can now tap your connections and invade your privacy.

You could do that normally, but you'd need a court warrant to show that there is probable cause. That's been the civil liberty that's been upheld and respected for years.

Well you don't need a warrant anymore! Now you anything you say can potentially be handed to the government whenever they ****ing want.

This breaks so many long-held liberties it's not funny. ****ing disgusting. -_-

I can only hope action is taken to fix this one day.

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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Jul 9 2008, 10:31 PM)
Biggest ****ing assault on the constitution in ever.
Might as well wipe your ass with it now.

Long story short:
If you're suspected of being a terrorist, any kind of threat to the US, or whatever, the government can now tap your connections and invade your privacy.

You could do that normally, but you'd need a court warrant to show that there is probable cause. That's been the civil liberty that's been upheld and respected for years.

Well you don't need a warrant anymore! Now you anything you say can potentially be handed to the government whenever they ****ing want.

This breaks so many long-held liberties it's not funny. ****ing disgusting. -_-

I can only hope action is taken to fix this one day.

overreact much?

explain why a suspected terrorist should have time to cover his tracks and flee when he knows the feds are onto him, but they need to get a court warrant first which can take months?
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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:35 AM
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overreact much?

It's not possible to overreact on this. It's a ****ing outrage.
The founding fathers would be turning in their graves if they knew of this.
As the saying goes, of course.


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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Jul 9 2008, 10:35 PM)
It's not possible to overreact on this. It's a ****ing outrage.

Boohoo Bobby?

Oh lord, my privacy!

PS. Don't get suspected of being a terrorist, maybe? If they tap your lines, and there's nothing suspicious / beneficial ... they'll leave, now won't they?



If it's so unconstitutional, the Supreme Court will axe the law, and that will bet that.
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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:38 AM
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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jul 10 2008, 12:38 AM)
if you are concerned you have something to hide.

WELL I DO HAVE SOME FETISHES AND I WOULDN'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT KNOWING THAT ! ! !


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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Jul 9 2008, 10:38 PM)
if you are concerned you have something to hide.

Consider that Parakarry threw a four-page temper tantrum because the subtitle "The Thousand Year Door" spoiled the fact that there is a door called that in the game.
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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:52 AM
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What the hell is wrong with you all?

These are core liberties we're talking about, important things that we've been granted for so long, and now are being crushed.

I don't pose any threat to America and I have nothing of interest to them. And I'm not worried about anything happening to me. But goddamnit, it's still a miserable law.

Don't believe me? Read up on it. Many people oppose it for the exact same reason.
It rapes basic civil liberties in the ass.

If you're not upset about this, then frankly you're not paying attention to the bigger picture.

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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:55 AM
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Am I the only one here that actually agrees with Parakarry.


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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Jul 9 2008, 10:52 PM)
I don't pose any threat to America and I have nothing of interest to them. And I'm not worried about anything happening to me.

Then this law will, oddly enough ... not affect you, so stop bawling. It will only affect those who lead suspicious lives, or are remarkably unfortunate / accident-prone. To the other 99.95% of us, it is an irrelevant law.
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Posted: Jul 10 2008, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE (Razz @ Jul 9 2008, 10:57 PM)
Am I the only one here that actually agrees with Parakarry.

You should feel proud for being so thoughtful, Parakarry's often victimized without any support at all.
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