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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (Hoj @ Jul 22 2008, 04:34 PM)
But you'd never start at zero, if it was infinate you'd have always been counting, so there'd be no number you'd be on. This is mashing my mind XD

I don't mean to be stuborn, but doesn't anyone think infinate is messed up ???

You wouldn't be starting at zero, since there was no beginning, but you definitely wouldn't be ending your counting.

And you wouldn't be counting like, "ONE, FIFTEEN, SIX, TEN," because that makes no sense.


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE (Hoj @ Jul 22 2008, 04:34 PM)
But you'd never start at zero, if it was infinate you'd have always been counting, so there'd be no number you'd be on. This is mashing my mind XD

I don't mean to be stuborn, but doesn't anyone think infinate is messed up ???

even if you started at zero, there are still numbers before zero. you're just picking a starting point
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 22 2008, 04:33 PM)
why would it have already happened?

infinate means constant, right? If the universe was infinate we'd have had to have passed any logical point in time already. If it doesn't have a start, they'd be no end. Ain't no middle with no end. So where the f*** are we? :P

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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (Hoj @ Jul 22 2008, 04:35 PM)
infinate means constant, right? If the universe was infinate we'd have had to have passed any logical point in time already. If is doesn't have a start, they'd be no end. Ain't no middle with no end. So where the f*** are we? :P

We're at the present.


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jul 22 2008, 04:36 PM)
We're at the present.

So an infinate amount of time hasn't passed if there's a future.


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (Hoj @ Jul 22 2008, 04:35 PM)
infinate means constant, right? If the universe was infinate we'd have had to have passed any logical point in time already. If it doesn't have a start, they'd be no end. Ain't no middle with no end. So where the f*** are we? :P

infinite (noun) - Boundless, endless, without end or limits, uncountable, innumerable.

its only confusing because you keep adding extra meanings to it
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jul 22 2008, 04:36 PM)
We're at the present.

Which is, as I've stated, a human delusion that events in time are locations.


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Jul 22 2008, 04:37 PM)
Which is, as I've stated, a human delusion that events in time are locations.

spacetime
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 22 2008, 04:38 PM)
spacetime

Can you travel to 1976? It's not possible; you'd have to go faster than the speed of light to go backward in time; to go forward you'd have to be going at almost no speed at all, including the speed of whatever planet/other you're on, and whatever gravity is influencing you.


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Sorry guys if I seem to be acting like I know it all, I'm just blagged! :P

Think about it, if the universe has ALWAYS been there, why are we here? If it's always been there then we'd have already reached the end?? There can't be another billion years left until the end, if we've already been here for ever!!??


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Jul 22 2008, 04:40 PM)
Can you travel to 1976? It's not possible; you'd have to go faster than the speed of light to go backward in time; to go forward you'd have to be going at almost no speed at all, including the speed of whatever planet/other you're on, and whatever gravity is influencing you.

time only goes in one direction, seriously try looking up spacetime
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Hoj @ Jul 22 2008, 04:40 PM)
Sorry guys if I seem to be acting like I know it all, I'm just blagged! :P

Think about it, if the universe has ALWAYS been there, why are we here? If it's always been there then we'd have already reached the end?? There can't be another billion years left until the end, if we've already been here for ever!!??

you've stopped making any sense
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 22 2008, 04:41 PM)
time only goes in one direction, seriously try looking up spacetime

Time speeds up the faster you go, reaching zero when you hit the speed of light. Therefore, anything faster than the speed of light would result in going backwards in time.


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Actually, science proves* time travel is possible :O

*I think

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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Jul 22 2008, 04:42 PM)
Time speeds up the faster you go, reaching zero when you hit the speed of light. Therefore, anything faster than the speed of light would result in going backwards in time.

you can't go faster than the speed of light
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 22 2008, 04:43 PM)
you can't go faster than the speed of light

According to Einstein, but if you could you'd go back in time, that's also according to Einstein :P


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 22 2008, 03:43 PM)
you can't go faster than the speed of light

within your own frame of reference, anyway

if you're in an extremely stretched area of space-time, you can move faster than light would outside of that area, but still slower than light within that area


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (Hoj @ Jul 22 2008, 04:40 PM)
Sorry guys if I seem to be acting like I know it all, I'm just blagged! :P

Think about it, if the universe has ALWAYS been there, why are we here? If it's always been there then we'd have already reached the end?? There can't be another billion years left until the end, if we've already been here for ever!!??

We haven't always been here. We are not infinite. The whole point of it being infinite is that there is no beginning and no end.


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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jul 22 2008, 04:47 PM)
We haven't always been here. We are not infinite. The whole point of it being infinite is that there is no beginning and no end.

If there's no beginning then we've always been here!!! XD Spazz!

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Unless your point is that we haven't always been here smile.gif

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QUOTE (Hoj @ Jul 22 2008, 04:49 PM)
If there's no beginning then we've always been here!!! XD Spazz!

No, it just means that there was no beginning. You were not here before you were born.


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