Attention Atheists.

Then why is the rest of this so unreasonable?

I don't see how. Please explain.

That's the arrow's paradox, isn't it? There are many forms of that. Logic has flaws, but this isn't one of them. Logic just isn't complete even if you think it is. You have to deal with presuppositions and a few other things that aren't part of the current way of formal logic.

If you want to move 12m in 12s, then you travel 6m in 6s, 3m in 3s, 1.5m in 1.5s, and so on. Small distances will take small time to go to.

However, in another form of a similar paradox, there is a light that in half a second turns on, the next quarter a second off, the next eighth second on, the next sixteenth second off, and so on. At the end of 1 second, will the light be on or off?


This post has been edited by zzo38 on Jul 22 2008, 06:34 PM

Oh yes, I am hurt.

xD

Seriously man, you need to stop.

Okay, why was Razz banned but not Hoj?

Hoj has been trolling/flamebaiting on multiple pages, ticking off multiple people, and has also flamed people (not as severely as Razz did, but far more times).

It obviously wasn't just a slip-up; he's been trying to make trouble.

wtf TA


ban Hoj, too.

This post has been edited by ZeldaMalon on Jul 23 2008, 01:31 AM

Whoa guys. I'm getting to it. Just be patient.

The only problem here is that someone is misunderstanding infinite by thinking it has a beginning and an end, the very definition of what infinity is not.

He obviously doesn't have the education he says he does.

"If I gave you a candy after infinite time..." is a common creationist argument to prove there was a first cause.

Person loses massive credibility.

Isn't that just completely missing the point though? Answering a question with another question?

All those years ago people asked how we got here, then answered it with some dude who made us all, because that dude isn't us suddenly he can have always magically been there? Pfft.

I think that's the diversion which stopped people asking questions back when they invented this stuff. I mean a mystical man in the sky beyond understanding, blah blah, suddenly everybody shuts up, oh, and just to be sure they keep quiet throw in the "believe it or burn".

Anyways, here's a puzzler for the god squad:



The appendix. We're all born with one. It's left over from other species we've evolved from over billions of years. The appendix is a small, finger-like organ hanging off the end of the large intestine where it meets the small intestine. What does it do? Well, for our ancestor species, it supposedly helped to digest all the weird stuff they eat, like foliage and such, but in us, it's completely useless (not because we don't eat foliage, it's just a completely useless, functionless organ now), except for one thing...

Y'see, the only thing the appendix does, is in a small number of people it randomly gets infected due to it's awkward positioning. What happens when it gets infected? Well, you're in agony for a while, then it bursts, then you die. So, in our modern world with hospitals and doctors, the kind of pain appendicitis causes is so prominant that sufferers always end up going to casualty and it gets removed - the only realistic way to stop appendicitis from killing you is to take the organ right out. Once it's taken out, well, it makes absolutely no difference to your body, you just have a scar.

Anyway, I'll get to the point. Am I to believe that a magical "perfect" guy decided one day that he'll make people, but he'll shove a completely useless little notch in our digestive system which could randomly kill us? Why would he do that? To keep the population down? Ha. Another addition to the overwhelming evidence for the scientific explanation.



This post has been edited by DistantJ on Jul 23 2008, 08:22 AM

Also, I wonder if any Christians can solve this anomaly:

It's widely believed that God is perfect.

The problem with this theory is that God has admitted that he has made a mistake.

After flooding the world for forty days and nights, God promised he would never do it again. I don't know why God would do that if not to admit that it was not a good idea.

This brings two possibilites:

• That God has made a mistake, and thus is not perfect; or
• That God has not made a mistake, is incorrect in stating that he has, and thus is not perfect

:|

The flood was to kill the sinful people on the Earth back then, he doesn't need to do it again because of the future apocalypse that will destroy the heavens and Earth.

... who he admitted would likely still exist on Earth, but "nevertheless, I shall never punish my world with such a flood again."

He sure didn't mention this when he apologized for his flood. In fact, I never heard about this anywhere in the Bible. :|

Read Revelations in the New Testament.

I get given "Read the Bible" quite a lot.

Anyway the appendix is hardly useless. Due to the body once using it to store microbes in contains a lot of immunity cells. Hence it can get infected and cause you to die.

Real vestigial parts of the human body:
-> Ear Muscles (useless)
-> Remnants of the Nictitating membrane (horizontal eyelids)
-> Remnants of the reptile jaw
-> Goosebumps
-> Junk DNA

If these are made in god's image then god evolved from lizards. Also why does the Bible state god has a heart? Does he have a fluid circulatory system too?

Religion is so full of flaws that the only reason that anyone can safely believe in it is through faith. The belief in something you know to be false.

This is totally offtopic but I see it as justified.

This post has been edited by Hippoman on Jul 23 2008, 09:38 AM

I'm a Christian and all that, but I haven't even read past Genesis.

Would you rather be right, or would you rather be happy?


I see so many people use their own time and put forth a lot of effort, but for what reason?


Would you rather be right, or would you rather be happy?

Well, for people like me, being right MAKES me happy.

Ignorance is bliss?

Yeah. Great. Lie to myself, lie to everyone else and then die. Life fulfilled.

If I went up to that point, I'd stop and evaluate exactly what I'm trying to do with my life.