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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Jul 23 2008, 05:50 PM)
God is just a fusion of Zeus and Odin.

That's funny.


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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (Chronii @ Jul 23 2008, 11:53 AM)
That's funny.

What Hippoman said; and the Norse creation myth after Ragnarok is almost identical and (iirc) predates Christianity. Odin and Zeus are both known as "Fathers", Odin has sons (Frey and Tyr) who give great sacrifices to save mankind; etc.


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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 12:02 PM
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What does this really have to do with the God-Santa Claus thing?


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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (Chronii @ Jul 23 2008, 12:02 PM)
What does this really have to do with the God-Santa Claus thing?

They're all just stories; if you concede that Zeus and Odin are false, so must their platonic offspring, Jaweh. His name is not "God", as that implies that there is a "Goddess", and furthermore, Christianity muddles things up by saying that Jesus, Jaweh, and the Holy Spirit are separate entities but are the same entity at the same time.


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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Jul 23 2008, 06:05 PM)
They're all just stories; if you concede that Zeus and Odin are false, so must their platonic offspring, Jaweh. His name is not "God", as that implies that there is a "Goddess", and furthermore, Christianity muddles things up by saying that Jesus, Jaweh, and the Holy Spirit are separate entities but are the same entity at the same time.

Well, thank you very much, then. I mean, if YOU say that God is a story, then it must be true.


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QUOTE (Hippoman @ Jul 23 2008, 06:12 PM)
It's illogical not to believe in all gods, or no gods.

It's illogical to say a thing like that.


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QUOTE (Chronii @ Jul 23 2008, 05:12 PM)
It's illogical to say a thing like that.

Well since you can't comment with anything less than childish remarks I don't see the point in trying to help you as you will never change your beliefs even if no evidence came and punched you in the face.

May Ra judge you and entrance to Valhalla be denied.


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QUOTE (Hippoman @ Jul 23 2008, 06:14 PM)
Well since you can't comment with anything less than childish remarks I don't see the point in trying to help you as you will never change your beliefs even if no evidence came and punched you in the face.

May Ra judge you and entrance to Valhalla be denied.

Ah, so what you are saying is that it's a bad thing to believe in God. Which means that you are looking down at religious people.


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QUOTE (Chronii @ Jul 23 2008, 05:15 PM)
Ah, so what you are saying is that it's a bad thing to believe in God. Which means that you are looking down at religious people.

I'm saying that if you don't believe in the thousands of other gods, why do you believe in your own?

The evidence points in no true direction. Have you chosen your religion? Or did you religion indoctrinate you?


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QUOTE (Hippoman @ Jul 23 2008, 06:17 PM)
The evidence points in no true direction.

That's why it's called to "believe".


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QUOTE (Chronii @ Jul 23 2008, 05:19 PM)
That's why it's called to "believe".

Uhuh. OK why don't you believe in Ra then?


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QUOTE (Hippoman @ Jul 23 2008, 06:19 PM)
Uhuh. OK why don't you believe in Ra then?

Because I like Christianity better.


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QUOTE (Hippoman @ Jul 23 2008, 12:19 PM)
Uhuh. OK why don't you believe in Ra then?

Ra is way cooler, IMO, and doesn't flip-flop on repenting just before death.


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I believe this topic is about Atheistic beliefs, not about arguing about God existing or not. If you are going to argue the existence of God, then please start a new topic. I quite enjoy reading non-muddled topics.


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QUOTE (Chippermonkey @ Jul 23 2008, 05:26 PM)
I believe this topic is about Atheistic beliefs, not about arguing about God existing or not. If you are going to argue the existence of God, then please start a new topic. I quite enjoy reading non-muddled topics.

I thought we finished that early on. Now the topic is going off in new and exciting directions at mach 5.


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Just because I believe in God it doesn't mean I have to believe in EVERY god. That defeats the purpose of having different religions.


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QUOTE (Sword @ Jul 23 2008, 01:58 PM)
Just because I believe in God it doesn't mean I have to believe in EVERY god. That defeats the purpose of having different religions.

Well, to be honest (and I'm not trying to insult), Christianity is basically a rip-off of every religion that its followers were converted from. It takes Judaism, adds some Norse, Celtic, and Roman (which is a rip-off itself) religions to the mix, and adds a triad instead of one deity.

It's like America, or the English language.

Basically, if you thought, say, D&D was real, but didn't think so about all the folklore which D&D was based on was right. Is that a good example, or am I rambling?


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Hippoman's argument reminds me of a quote
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I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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