Attention Atheists.

What makes you say that? I think many other races desire the characteristics of races other than themselves (e.g. Asian's dying their hair, Caucasians straightening their hair, etc.), so why so blatantly hate on whites? What race, praytell, do you propose as better to be, Saberie?

Also, I don't think the race of the doctor doing the procedure is really relevant. If a black doctor was paid to make his patient white (or vice versa), I don't think it'd matter as long as he got his money. It's more human rights laws that keep doctors (or the government) from initiating such a nationwide action.

It's a joke woman, cheer up.

Wait, lemme sell tickets before you guys cat fight.

I believe "lighten" up would be more appropriate, though they mean pretty much the same thing.

Why so serious?

See what I did there? I referenced that batman movie. Bet no ones done that before.

You win.... back on subject:

Athiests believe in evolution and big bang... uhh... I don't know, I'm not athiest.

I just hope one day when I pass on I find out somehow or another that everyone was wrong. Just completely and utterly wrong. No one was right, all the ideas, all the faiths, all the science, just wrong.


I'm not quite sure why I would enjoy that, but it would certainly make all those and these internet religious debates look very silly.

The only way science could possibly be wrong is if an invisible man manipulated the results of every single experiment ever done.

That's what experiments are for. To make sure we're right.

We make a theory, then we do an experiment to see if it holds true in the real world.

Yeah, it'll give me something to laugh about in hell, (according to my religion, anyway.)

Nobody is saying science is always wrong nor always right. But we don't know what happens after death.

Logic says nothing.

I like this whole "leap of faith" thing. It's basically like saying "NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU. MY GOD IS REAL, MY MOM SAID SO."

If there really was a God, he would probably see striving for knowledge and trying to seek proof of his existence as somewhat of a virtue.

I was responding to Piemanthe3rd. He pretty much said "I wish everything about Science was wrong." which is impossible.

Anything that's experimentally proven is, by definition, right.

Of course, there's a chance sufficient experiments haven't been done, or results were messed with, but experiments are constantly redone all the time. Those mistakes wouldn't be consistent.

This post has been edited by ChaosEmerl on Jul 23 2008, 03:11 PM

I guess I'm an atheist, and I'm not really sure what I believe. Mostly, I just don't care. I think that whatever happens will happen, and in my mind, the only thing to do is roll with it. Neither side (Religious views vs. atheist views) knows anything for sure, so it's absolutely silly to try and convince either side that they're wrong. It's a system of beliefs, not a system of "I'm right, you're wrong, so I'm gonna keep telling you that you're wrong."

If it turns out that when people die, they're just dead, gone, etc, then we roll with it. If it turns out that death is a religious event and people are divided up between heaven and hell, then we roll with it. Either way, it doesn't much matter, I don't think.

So yeah!!

Well, the bible says that he doesn't leave proof because he believes the bible is proof enough... Go ahead and laugh. But apparently some athiests believe that one's soul dissappears when one dies. I'd rather play it safe and stick to a religion, because, according to some athiests, I'm just gonna die and dissappear without a consequence, doesn't depend on what I believe or not.

This post is genius.

Pbbt. I just saw that when I finished my post.

This is pretty much something they say in the Bible.

If we're wrong to believe in God (or, if you aren't a Christian, a god of some form), and when we die, nothing happens, then we didn't lose anything. If we're right, we've gained everything.

I'd rather take my chances that God is real than fake.

Reminds me of a saying my Philosophy teacher once told us. Pascals Wager I beleive

Something about you should wager on God even if no one can "prove" he's real. Because in the end when you die, if you where right you have lots to gain, and if you where wrong you have nothing to lose.


I'm not religious by the by. Then again I'm also not atheist.

Darn internet shutting down and making me accidentally repost. Sorry, guys.

This post has been edited by Mrs. Aforcer on Jul 23 2008, 03:19 PM

Déjà vu...

I feel like I've seen this post before...

EDIT: Ah ok...

This post has been edited by Chronii on Jul 23 2008, 03:20 PM

That's true. The Bible would be proof enough. If it had some kind of fundamental truth to it.

I mean, it was written by people. You know people make mistakes. Furthermore, thousands of books were written by thousands of people back in the day, and then the Vatican decided to handpick a bunch of them and call it the Bible using their "holy judgement".

So technically, if you aren't catholic and don't believe in the Pope's infallibility, you shouldn't believe a word of the Bible, because every book in there was essentially chosen by him. If you really wanted to pursue Religion and you weren't catholic, you would probably be better off finding copies of the gnostic Gospels, which are a few of the books "rejected" by the Vatican, and reading those as well, such as the Book of Thomas in which Jesus killed a man, and used miracles to play pranks on the villagers throughout his childhood.


The problem with Christianity is that they just pick and choose what they can believe, based on nothing.

What if I told you that if you don't worship the almighty jelly bean and attend the church of the almighty jelly bean every Tuesday and Friday, your soul will be sent to a place worse than hell where it'll rot for longer than eternity?

There's no real difference between that and Christianity except for the fact that one of them happens to be written in a fancy hard-covered book. You were raised by Christians who told you Christianity was the way to go, and you just never questioned them because you didn't know any better.

That's how it always happens, and it's sad, really.