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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 04:34 PM
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Let each character have 1 unique costume.

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Mario- Dr. Mario
Luigi- Mr. L
Bowser- Dry Bowser
Kirby- Waddle Dee


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (Dr. Light @ Aug 25 2008, 03:12 PM)
-Give Mario's a new Down Special
-Let Kirby inhale projectile attacks and gain abilities from them if they are a characters Standard Special
-Let Kirby and Dedede hold things in their mouth instead of instantly swallowing them
-Stop Yoshi's Side Special from killing the user (aka don't make Yoshi vulnerable after using it in the air)
-Stop Pit's Down Special from blocking physical moves
-Let Squirtle's Standard Special put out fires such as Charizard's flamethrower or Bowser's fire breath

Squirtle's water gun CAN stop Charizard's flamethrower, but the fact that it is constantly coming out, as soon as water gun ends, the fire can hit you again. Mario's FLUDD can be used well, I dunno why people can't figure it out, the Kirby and Dedede ideas would really funk up character balance, because honestly, there's no reason you should be able to power up Kirby even more when he's already a really good character, and Pit's little shield can't block a grab, nor can it last that long as it is, plus you can hit him from behind.

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To add on to this, Kirby should actually copy an opponent's entire B moveset. Not just neutral B, but the directionals as well. I was hoping to see Kirby whip out Mario's Cape, FLUDD, or Super Jump Punch, but all he got was the fireball yet again.


...because if he could do all of that, why even use another character? Kirby can just use everyone's move set.

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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Nnnk @ Aug 25 2008, 05:34 PM)
Let each character have 1 unique costume.

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Mario- Dr. Mario
Luigi- Mr. L
Bowser- Dry Bowser
Kirby- Waddle Dee

I'm liking this. If not for Wario, why not everyone else. I know that Fox McCloud has had at least 3 different outfits in the Starfox series. And for Samus, other than color change, suit shape should change as well. Make them unlockables too, like in Advance Wars.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:02 PM
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I though instead of just adding new characters, they could've just made alternate costumes for a bunch of characters.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Aug 25 2008, 05:02 PM)
I though instead of just adding new characters, they could've just made alternate costumes for a bunch of characters.

Dr. Mario could have been an unlockable alternate costume for Mario.

Mewtwo was a unique character, although his moveset was a combination of moves from several other characters. I have no idea why Nintendo decided to take him out.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE (General @ Aug 25 2008, 05:05 PM)
Mewtwo was a unique character, although his moveset was a combination of moves from several other characters. I have no idea why Nintendo decided to take him out.

Because he sucked ass in Melee, and since they had Lucario, who was pretty similar but much better, made sense. He could work as an alternate costume. I wouldn't want him slapped in since you know, the way the character select screen is arranged now, the Pokemon column is full as it is, so there's no reason they should have ANOTHER separate character for that franchise, especially considering he is so close to being another character.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Aug 25 2008, 05:08 PM)
Because he sucked ass in Melee

If you can master him, he's a pretty good character.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE (General @ Aug 25 2008, 05:09 PM)
If you can master him, he's a pretty good character.

It's been pretty much proven he had almost nothing going for him at all.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Aug 25 2008, 05:16 PM)
It's been pretty much proven he had almost nothing going for him at all.

I know that he's inferior to characters like Fox and Shiek, but he isn't the worst if you know how to use him right.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (General @ Aug 25 2008, 05:26 PM)
I know that he's inferior to characters like Fox and Shiek, but he isn't the worst if you know how to use him right.

No, Pichu is, but Mewtwo is second to bottom.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Aug 25 2008, 05:29 PM)
No, Pichu is, but Mewtwo is second to bottom.

Pichu was a terrible character. A weaker clone of Pikachu who takes damage for any electrical attack it uses.


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QUOTE (General @ Aug 25 2008, 05:37 PM)
Pichu was a terrible character. A weaker clone of Pikachu who takes damage for any electrical attack it uses.

What made Pichu even worse is that you'd have to go inside of characters to actually hit them with the smash attacks, meaning you can easily be hurt before even getting up to them to land an attack, since their attacks can hit you where you can't even hit them.
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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (Glukom @ Aug 23 2008, 08:58 AM)
Also Isaac from Golden Sun should be a character, but it's probably too late for that considering Golden Sun is really old.

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Game&Watch.

Issac would have been great. Maybe he could have brought along a buddy like Ness and Marth, but I don't know which.



GRAY FOX, DAMNIT! THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EPIC.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 06:07 PM
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Kirby gets abilities from the games instead of the characters; I.E. He copies Ike and becomes Sword Kirby, or copies Mario and becomes Fire Kirby.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Aug 25 2008, 03:07 PM)
Kirby gets abilities from the games instead of the characters; I.E. He copies Ike and becomes Sword Kirby, or copies Mario and becomes Fire Kirby.

What about Peach and Sonic and Snake and Game&Watch and DK/Diddie and many others?


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE (Ryoga @ Aug 25 2008, 06:09 PM)
What about Peach and Sonic and Snake and Game&Watch and DK/Diddie and many others?

Peach- Sleep Kirby
Sonic- Wheel Kirby
Snake- Bomb Kirby
G&W- Dark Matter Kirby
DK- Fighting Kirby/Hammer Kirby
Same for Diddy

I could go on. G&W is the only troublesome one.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Aug 25 2008, 03:14 PM)
Peach- Sleep Kirby
Sonic- Wheel Kirby
Snake- Bomb Kirby
G&W- Dark Matter Kirby
DK- Fighting Kirby/Hammer Kirby
Same for Diddy

I could go on. G&W is the only troublesome one.

Does Sleep Kirby really do much? =/

Captian Falcon/Ganondorf?
Lucario?
Olimar?
DeeDeeDee?


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QUOTE (Ryoga @ Aug 25 2008, 06:16 PM)
Does Sleep Kirby really do much? =/

Captian Falcon/Ganondorf?
Lucario?
Olimar?
DeeDeeDee?

CF/G- Fighter Kirby
Lucario- Ninja Kirby, maybe Laser
Olimar- Mirror Kirby (Like how Kirby can call in other Kirbys in Amazing Mirror)
Dedede- Suplex Kirby

And Sleep Kirby Heals you.


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Posted: Aug 25 2008, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE (Pip Bernadotte @ Aug 25 2008, 03:37 PM)
CF/G- Fighter Kirby
Lucario- Ninja Kirby, maybe Laser
Olimar- Mirror Kirby (Like how Kirby can call in other Kirbys in Amazing Mirror)
Dedede- Suplex Kirby

And Sleep Kirby Heals you.

Kirby is fine as he is.
Its just that some idleB moves suck.
Like the Fireball.


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 05:52 AM
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It's go something like this

Mario = Fire Kirby
Luigi = Fire Kirby
Peach = Sleep Kirby
Bowser = Fire Kirby
Donkey Kong = Animal Kirby
Yoshi = Throw
Link = Sword
Zelda = Magician Kirby
Sheik = Ninja Kirby
Ganondorf = Fighter Kirby
Young Link = Sword Kirby
Samus = Beam Kirby
Ice Climbers = Freeze Kirby
Captain Falcon = Fighter Kirby
Fox = Laser Kirby
Falco = Laser Kirby
Pikachu = Spark Kirby
Jigglypuff = Sleep Kirby
Marth = Sword Kirby
Ness = Spark Kirby
Mr. Game & Watch
Diddy Kong = Animal Kirby
Wario = Wheelie Kirby
Pit = Cupid Kirby
Meta Knight = Galaxia Kirby
King Dedede = Hi-Jump Kirby
Captain Olimar = Mirror Kirby
Wolf = Laser Kirby
Squirtle = Bubble Kirby
Ivysaur = Cutter Kirby
Charizard = Fire Kirby
Lucario = Ninja Kirby
Ike = Sword Kirby
Lucas = Spark Kirby
Snake = Bomb Kirby
Sonic = Wheelie Kirby
R.O.B. = Laser Kirby (It pretty much is already)


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