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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 06:09 AM
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I'd like to see customisable animations. Like for the Super Dedede jump, Dedede will jump KDL style (how it is now) or KDL3 style (He spins around in the air as he jumps").

My Music for character victory tunes. Mario would have the SMW end level theme for example, among other themes.


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Aug 25 2008, 04:41 PM)
...because if he could do all of that, why even use another character? Kirby can just use everyone's move set.

He wouldn't have any of their A moves, final smashes, or physical attributes. Not to mention, if you knock him around enough times, he won't have the power for long anyway.


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 09:59 AM
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Mario: new vB
Olimar: new ^B (flower copter?)
Sonic: he can do more than spin
Falco: arwing and some ORIGINAL MOVES
Wolf: is perfectly fine
ROB: shouldn't exist
Megaman: Should
Mewtwo and Roy: bring them back
Ganondork: when has he ever been a fighter kind of character?
Pikachu: Rawks my socks
Longchu: For alt costume
Pit: new >B


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE (Tuna Unleashed @ Aug 26 2008, 04:59 PM)
ROB: shouldn't exist

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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (NICKtendo DS @ Aug 26 2008, 11:32 AM)
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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Tuna Unleashed @ Aug 26 2008, 03:59 PM)
Ganondork: when has he ever been a fighter kind of character?

what



What's this even supposed to mean, he's the main Zelda villain, of course he's a fighting kind


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 11:50 AM
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Give near all characters an alternate costume:

Mario: Dr. Mario

Luigi: Weegee...um...I mean Mr. L!

Peach: Daisy

Bowser: Dry Bowser

Kirby: Gooey or, if ACs from different universes: Ditto!

Metaknight: The other Kirby-Enemy with a Sword(what was his name again?)

King Dedede:

Ganondorf: Toon Ganondorf

Fox: Fox in Starfox-64-Design(Yes, 1:1 N64-Grafics

Falco: Like Fox

Toon Link: Young Link

Pikachu: Pichu(But without the Emochu-Virus, please!)

Lucario: Mewtwo

Jigglypuff: Wigglytuff

Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard: Totodile/Grotle/Blaziken

Mr. Game and Watch: Paper Mario(Instead of Judgement Paper Mario is using his Partners)

Wario: the same as before, but wit Jet-Wario from Wario Land 1 as ultra-smash!


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE (Neopolis @ Aug 26 2008, 11:34 AM)
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What's this even supposed to mean, he's the main Zelda villain, of course he's a fighting kind

I meant that he was never really a fighting type of character. Y'know, fighting, like ryu. He always used magic or his sword.


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 01:00 PM
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Ok, lets do costumes now?

Mario:Dr. Mario

Luigi: Mr. L

Donkey Kong: Funky, Chunky(pleeeease!)

Diddy kong: Dixie Kong

Link: Toon Link, Young Link, Dark Link

Bowser: Dry Bowser

Yoshi: Boshi

Zelda: Toon Zelda

Pokemon trainer: Girl Pokemon Trainer

Sonic: Shadow

Peach: Rosilina

I know its not even believable to have anything like this but still its how I would want to see the characters.





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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE (Tuna Unleashed @ Aug 26 2008, 09:59 AM)
ROB: shouldn't exist
Megaman: Should

ROB is a great character if you don't suck and WHY WASN'T MEGA MAN IN BRAWL ;__________________;


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (Link2005 @ Aug 26 2008, 08:50 AM)
Luigi: Weegee...um...I mean Mr. L!

Ganondorf: Toon Ganondorf

Toon Link: Young Link

Pikachu: Pichu(But without the Emochu-Virus, please!)


Weegee was good.

YES.

No.

Emochu?


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 03:30 PM
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Mario:Dr Mario
Luigi:Mr L
Peach:Rosalina
Bowser:Dry Bowser
DK:Funky
Diddy:Dixie
Yoshi:Boshi
Link:Young Link
Zelda:Young Zelda
Ganondorf:N64 look
Toon Link:
Samus:Fusion Suit
Pit:Edit the original Kid Icarus sprites to match his moveset
Ice Climbers:Costume switch
Rob:Wall-e
Kirby:Waddle Dee
Metaknight:Maskless Metaknight
Dedede:Mecha Dedede
Olimar:Louie
Fox:Starfox adventures look
Falco:Original look
Wolf:Panther Caluroso
Captain Falcon:Captain Rainbow
Pikachu:Pichu
Trainer:Girl Trainer
Lucario:Mewtwo
Jigglypuff:Wigglytuff
Marth:Roy
Ike:Ike from South Park
Mr.G&W:Some other character from Game and watch
Snake:One of the people that he talks to
Sonic:Shadow


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Ryoga @ Aug 25 2008, 05:48 PM)
Dude.
Game&Watch.

Issac would have been great. Maybe he could have brought along a buddy like Ness and Marth, but I don't know which.



GRAY FOX, DAMNIT! THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EPIC.

If Golden Sun had another character is Smash, it'd be Felix. The only reason I doubt it is because GS isn't anywhere near as memorable as G&W, and there are only 2 games.


Anyway, personally, I don't like Lucario at all. Not because he's a bad character, but... I lost track of Pokemon at Gold and Silver. I played RSE, too, but I never liked the pokemon in that game. Weird designs in my opinion, didn't have the same feel as the originals. For the most part, I feel the same way for the DP Pokemon. So yeah, Lucario isn't really my thing.
Mewtwo is a more memorable character than Lucario, and probably will always be. Get rid of Lucario and spruce up Melee's Mewtwo, then I'd be happy.


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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE (demon_masta @ Aug 26 2008, 12:30 PM)
Mario:Dr Mario
Luigi:Mr L
Peach:Rosalina
Bowser:Dry Bowser
DK:Funky
Diddy:Dixie
Yoshi:Boshi
Link:Young Link
Zelda:Young Zelda
Ganondorf:N64 look
Toon Link:
Samus:Fusion Suit
Pit:Edit the original Kid Icarus sprites to match his moveset
Ice Climbers:Costume switch
Rob:Wall-e
Kirby:Waddle Dee
Metaknight:Maskless Metaknight
Dedede:Mecha Dedede
Olimar:Louie
Fox:Starfox adventures look
Falco:Original look
Wolf:Panther Caluroso
Captain Falcon:Captain Rainbow
Pikachu:Pichu
Trainer:Girl Trainer
Lucario:Mewtwo
Jigglypuff:Wigglytuff
Marth:Roy
Ike:Ike from South Park
Mr.G&W:Some other character from Game and watch
Snake:One of the people that he talks to
Sonic:Shadow

If it wasn't for a deal of the FAIL in there, that might be good.

I think Zelda and Ganandorf would be cool in WW styles.
And Samus' light blue costume is close enough to her Fusion Suit.

Snake as Liquid Snake or Raiken.
Or just add Gray Fox.

Also, Roy sucks compared to Marth and Ike.

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Posted: Aug 26 2008, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (Nicholas Ainsworth @ Aug 25 2008, 01:29 PM)
2) Kirby and Dedede don't instantly swallow opponents, last time I checked, and I'm pretty sure Dedede can't swallow them at all.

I meant items and other things you eat besides other players.

I want to be able to use them as ammunition rather than just swallowing them right away.


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QUOTE (Dr. Light @ Aug 26 2008, 12:49 PM)
I meant items and other things you eat besides other players.

I want to be able to use them as ammunition rather than just swallowing them right away.

Maybe even store items and puke them back up in the reverse order of the swallowing?
But only up to, like, three?


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Posted: Aug 27 2008, 10:27 PM
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I'm just gonna run down the list of characters in this post, I have SO much I think needs retooling that it'll probably be a few posts.
Mario's Down B needs to go back to what it was.
Luigi's Final Smash needs to be WAY better, I think almost everyone agrees there.
Peach is fine, but she has a hokey final smash, but to be fair she's a hokey fighter anyway. lose the toad thing...hokey. lose the veggie thing...also hokey. her most useful moves are side B and up B. if you wanna have peach, retool her.
Give Bowser hed side B back, it was just cool.
Donkey Kong is perfect as always.
Retool Diddy and make him more useful, not to say he's useless, just less useful than others.
Yoshi is so stinkin' cute I can say no bad things about him. (plus my wife loves him and would hit me)
Wario is fine.
Link. Personally I prefer the N64 costume but whatever.
No changes to the New Zelda/Shiek, I dig that you can start as Shiek now.
Gannondorf, speed him up a little and give him original moves. plus a sword cuz swords is cool.
Love Toon Link.
Samus, get rid of the Zero laser's affect of losing the suit. make it more like Zelda /Shiek. you pick at the character select screen and give Zero a kick ass final smash.
Pit, cool but needs a little work, his shield could be a different move IMO, just because I never find myself using it. he needs a different UP B too, something along the lines of his UP smash but bigger maybe, make it an attack as opposed to a glide, he could pull out that shield and charge upward at an angel like squirtle but instead of watter it'd be energy.
ice climbers...lose them
ROB, better final smash if your gonna keep him.
Kirby needs his fireball side smash back, otherwise he's still perfect.
Metaknight needs a better UP B like pit does. he needs a better down B too.
DeDeDe is goofy but I kinda like him. needs to replace his charged hammer thing but he's cool
Olimar...lose him
Fox...always good
Falco, also good
Wolf, also good, keep him
Captain Falcon, my first main, he's good
Pikachu...lose him
Pokemon Trainer...LOSE
Lucario, LOSE
Jiggly Puff, L-O-S-E (if you can't tell I hate poke'mon)
Marth, replace with Roy, his attacks did fire damage
Ike, meh...I like him but whatever
Ness-Keep as is
Lucas, change him a little more to distinguish him from Ness just an ounce more
Game and Watch, better final smash
Snake, lose, not because I hate Non nintendos, but I just never used him
Sonic, I agree, change up the move set but for the most part I like him
add Megaman/Protoman/X/Zero. keep it in the first 2 game series realm
if your gonna have Sonic you should have tails either as a seperate character or as a move of sonics, like instead of his spring it could be his UP B
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Posted: Aug 27 2008, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE (Blue Griffin 23 @ Aug 27 2008, 07:27 PM)
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Mario- Yes, his old vB was better.
Luigi- Its fine if you ask me. His dance could be shorter, though. If anyone, Mario needs a new one.
Peach- She is fine, if you can use her. I use her and I never find myself using the Turnips. But a fully charged ^smash could easily kill anyone, especially above her, during her FS.
Bowser- Don't use him.
DK- Fine.
Diddy- Could use a better move set. vB is pretty useless and >B is hard to hit with.
Yoshi- Don't use, but his >B seems risky.
Wario- Fine.
Link- Why would we downgrade outfits?
Zelda/Shiek- Fine.
Gannondorf- Speed and sword, yes.
Toon Link- Fine.
Samus- The Zero Laser powers down the suit, so its only natural it comes off. But a better FS for ZSS would be nice.
Pit- There is always a move not often use for characters. But his shield is useful, especially when someone starts charging a projectile and their only option is fire. And his ^B is fine.
Ice Climbers- Don't use them, and I find them annoying, but they CAN be quality characters.
R.O.B.- I used to use him. His FS is perfect is used right.
Kirby- If people would stop STONING I wouldn't have a problem.
Metaknight- Needs less spammy moves. Otherwise, he is fine. ^B and vB is perfect if you know how to use them. =/
Dedede- His charged hammer is one of this easy K.O.s; if you don't like it, learn how to dodge it.
Olimr- Just a little overpowered. But my friend is deadly with him. He is a good fighter.
Starfox characters- Original moves and FSs.
Captain Falcon- Fine.
Pikachu- Needs less spammy players, but he is fine.
PT- I wouldn't mind losing him.
Lucario- He is good if you can use him. I dawdled with him for a time.
Jigglypuff- Good if you can use. I don't really care for... It... Anymore.
Marth- Fire? We have Ike. I like Marth. Lets keep him.
Ike- I LIKE IKE.
Ness- I use; if fine.
Lucas- Meh. Different enough. I use him and like him.
G&W- Good character. FS is deadly if you use the A button.
Snake- Just because you don't use him, we should lose him? He if a good character. I used to use him a lot. Good range and still good up close.
Sonic- We should lose him. Rather than fix him and add more Sawnik crap, lets just add Gray Fox.

Megaman and others- Meh. If he gets added, then they add Geno and Kat&Anna.


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Posted: Aug 27 2008, 11:54 PM
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They really need to get rid of Jigglypuff


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I personally think Diddy's almost perfect, though I would've liked to see some of his attacks be a bit more powerful, especially his useless peanut popguns.


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