!Discussion! General gist of the game, Solved.

Page 3, first post, includes the basic plotline that we made up in the IRC chat. If you don't post, you automatically agree. Thank you!

Yey! Another discussion topic!

I hope this one gets a bit more response than the first one, because here we're talking *nearly* about a kind of storyline for our little game!

However, you have to stick to these specific rules:
1) Do NOT come up with a super-über-epic storyline for now! This will follow later when we have finished this discussion.
2) Do come up with basic plot elements like:
ideas for worlds which we will travel through, layout of the world-map, main villains? Whatever is not too specific, but yet important for the further progress of the game creation process.
3) Keep in mind that too weird ideas can't be used for reasons I hope that I don't have to make clear anymore.
4) Stick to what we have already discussed so far. Look up some facts in the stickies if you are unsure. Anything that contradicts things that are already done will not be accepted.



Happy discussion.

This post has been edited by Guinea on Aug 30 2008, 02:20 AM

I think Bowser shouldn't be the main character. He could be more like the Paper Mario 2 Bowser, showing up here and there, battling him more then possibly.

Although, I might be good to stick to a more basic plot line, like bowser steals the princess, again, ( ) and you need to rescure her. We could put lots of twists on the way, such as a bigger reason why Bowser captures her. An example for that could be also the Paper Mario games. (Excluding 1) Maybe he needs her to awaken some crazy beast or supreme power, ect, ect. We could come up with that later.

Hmm...

Bowser is part of the main villain DUO!!! Yes, duo. I say we make him PARTNER UP with Captain Syrup. Y'know, sort of a "Bowser gets the princess, Syrup gets Wario and Waluigi's treasure as part of one big plot" but then throw in one big organizer that wants to destroy them all kinda thing.

Worlds:

1: Grass (Duh)
2: Forest
3: Mountain/Desert
4: Ocean/Syrup's Fleet
5: Ice
6: Sky
7: Space
8: Bowser's world
9: Big bad organizer's place...thing...

Sounds nice, BB.

others: more please!

It's hard to say. I think that the story should be deeper than just "Bowser and Capt. Syrup team up so Mario Bros. and Wario Bros. team up to stop them." It's not a bad idea, but it seems too simple. I do think Captain Syrup should be in it, but I don't think she should team up with Bowser.
Let's say there's something of a whole lot of value out there somewhere, and Capt. Syrup hears about it. She's gonna go all out to try and get it for herself. But if Bowser hears about it, he'll do the same thing. They won't team up to get it, because they want it all to themselves.
Now, I'm not saying BB's idea is bad, but it depends on what direction we want the game to go in - do we want it to have a deep, SPM-like story, or a simple, NSMB like story?

This post has been edited by Glukom on Aug 27 2008, 10:59 AM

Somewhere in between I say.

So far, this discussion is only about the very basics of the storyline, so even if we wanted to go for a deep storyline, we're not yet at the point to discuss it.

Of course, I'm not saying we make a deep storyline now, I'm just saying that we need to choose what kind of story we're gonna have.
Though in-between sounds good, something like the original Paper Mario, where the story itself is simple, but having towns and people to interact with along the way.

So basicly you're saying that Syrup would be a constant reocurring nuicence, while Bowser is the main boss?

What's the Wario Bros' motive?

And NSMB didn't really have a story, and I would imagine a deep one would work for this.

But we DEFINATELY allow Peach as a playable character afterwards, along with possibly toad and yoshi.

But I think we're through discussing that.

But anyway, who likes my world Ideas? You don't have to include the ninth world if you don't want to.

So basicly you're saying that Syrup would be a constant reocurring nuicence, while Bowser is the main boss?

What's the Wario Bros' motive?

And NSMB didn't really have a story, and I would imagine a deep one would work for this.

But we DEFINATELY allow Peach as a playable character afterwards, along with possibly toad and yoshi.

But I think we're through discussing that.

But anyway, who likes my world Ideas? You don't have to include the ninth world if you don't want to.

I'm not saying Bowser nor Syrup are the main bad guy, I'm not really saying anything. I can't really give an opinion until we completely decide what the story will be like.
I really have no idea how to explain what I'm trying to say :[

It's cool, brah. I completely understand.

I've had a small idea for a while. The main bad guy would be a new character.

In SMRPG, Smithy, the main boss, is a machine type thing. But then, who made Smithy? Thats what I think could be fun to answer.

A game around a machine building madman, trying to take out all the hero's of the world (which could involve him others others such as Bowser to stop the 4 main heros.)


Levels could vary, but heres some I had in mind.
Grass
Toad Town (this includes sewers and Peach's castle)
Desert
Ocean
Yoshi's Island
Island Mountain
Sky/Space
Star road
Taken Over Star Haven

or something along those lines. Idk...

I was thinking since Smithy hated the wishes and such, and attack on Star haven could make sence. I was trying to involve ideas from other games to make it have a feeling of continuety.

I kinda like where your going, Shyguy Grey

Well, I would suppose on those lines, I would guess the other three are Bowser, Captain Syrup, and possibly Dimentio or something.

But I'd have to disagree with those worlds, perhaps:
Toad Town/Grass,
Desert
Syrup's Fleet/Ocean
Island mountain/Yoshi's Island
Ice
Sky/Space
Bowser's castle
Destroyed star road/haven

That makes slightly more sense.

Actually, the order I made was for a reason.

Start at grass land
Travel to peach's castle where you learn of the trouble.
Travel the desert to geet to the ocean.
Swim the ocean to get to yoshis island (Becuase it is close to star road as seen in SMW)
Get to the island.
Climb the mountain (this would have caves, and ice worlds.
From the top, you take to the sky.
You make it to star road and beat the 5 tests (also in SMW)
That opens a path to star haven.


Also, what do you mean by "I would guess the other three are Bowser, Captain Syrup, and possibly Dimentio or something."?

What other 3?

Also, just an added note, each world that isn't like an enemy base should have towns and other places that you can return to any time to interact with people and buy items and stuff.

And I kinda like SGG's idea, but I don't know, I kinda would prefer to make a story completely unrelated to any other Mario game.

See, I was thinking that, but then 2 things hit me.

1. Official Mario games (aside from direct sequals) almost never talk of past events. It's as if everything that happens is forgotten by the next game, which is kinda stupid. I mean, you don't really hear much of King Boo capturing Mario, or Mario saving Daisy and such.

and
2. Connections like this could be used to make a more advanced plot in the end, and show how everything comes together.

Also, I agree with the town idea and such.

Maybe King K. Rool or Wart can be in as nusences then?

Oh. Because I was just saying to combine some worlds to make room for others.

And I misread your post. I thought you said 4 VILLAINS. Not heros.

But why would that guy want to get rid of the wario bros, and why would the Wario bros want to be a part of this? That's part of the things that we need to think about...

Wait a second!

SGG, why don't we combine your idea and mine! The Big bad organizer guy I reffered to could be Smithy's creator! IT'S GENIUS!!!

Well, my original idea was that the creater wanted to take out anyone who might be a threat to his plans, but I like the idea of combining.

Maybe Captain Syrup teams up with the Creater... Mecha Black Sugar Pirates?