!Discussion! General gist of the game, Solved.

Oh. Again, I was thinking of Bowser and Syrup teaming up to make like the Green Sugar pirates or something like that, then Smithy's creator being like the real bad guy that you didn't know about untill after you beat Bowser in World 8. Then Smithy's creator reveals himself and tells that the whole thing up to world 8 was a decoy while he took over Star Haven and gained the Star rod. Now THAT's what I meant.

I'm barely familiar with this project, beyond brief skimming of topics, but I do have one thing contribute. I had planned to have a baseball park themed world in PBW3, but I cut it from the story. I'm not sure how that could be worked into this story, but I would love to see the idea get used. Plus, it would be a good place to bring in the baseball enemies from Yoshi's Island.

Could that be a level in toad town?

Makes sense to me. Obviously, the Mushroom Kingdom has baseball parks in it. Just look at the two Mario baseball games!

I've come up with a few bosses for the game. I know its not that creative or ethical to the story, so point out things that are wrong with it, and i'll try to fix it.
Going by Shyguy Grey's way:
Grass: Goomba King
Toad Town: Toad Mutant (Mutated/Upgraded/Etc. by the main villan)
Desert: Giant Dune Bug/Tutankoopa
Ocean: Clam King
Island: Possesed/Cursed/etc Yoshi Elder/King
Mountain (Ice): The Soul Gatherer of The Mountains
Sky: Huff N' Puff / (The final battle of w/e has been a nuisance in the game)
Star Road: Probably the guy who gives the 5 tests
Star Heaven: Bowser and Captin Syrup / Supreme Version of Bowser/Captain Syrup

No no no.

Going by the combo...

Grass/Toadtown: Easy Bowser
Desert: Tutankoopa/Sphinx thing from SML
Syrup's Fleet/Ocean: Easy Syrup
Yoshi's Island/Mountain: Bowser Jr.
Ice: Chief Chilly
Sky/Space: Tatanga
Bowser's Castle: Bowser and Syrup
Destroyed star haven/Road: Smithy's Creator

That, would wor much better with more farmilliar characters, which players like.

Well don't forget, since Smithy's creater is involved, there could be Mecha bosses, or even call backs from SMRPG.

Also, maybe more than 1 boss per world, like a mini boss and such.

Also, more worlds could be added. Like a ghost world on you way to the ocean.

Alright, here's my suggestion.

World One would have typical Mushroom Kingdom areas such as Mario's house, grasslands, and Toad Town. The game would start at Mario's house, where both Luigi and Mario go to Toad Town together. Through the first few levels, you only can play as them.
Arrive at Toad Town, walk around for a while, then something like this... Captain Syrup and her pirate thieves raid the town and steal something from a house. The Mario Bros go after Syrup (while still in Toad Town), and when they reach the place she is stealing something from, the Wario Bros. show up. Then a minor boss battle against them.
After the fight, Captain Syrup escapes, and the Toad from the house she stole from comes out and explains to the bros. what happened.
I say something like a treasure map would be what she stole.
The opening cutscene of the game would show Syrup finding out about the map, and heading to Toad Town. The Wario Bros. would be in the cutscene to, involving Wario finding out that Captain Syrup was going to Toad Town, and him dragging Waluigi with him to find out why.
The Toad asks Mario if he could retrieve the map, because the Toad wants it for some reason (this part could be tweaked in any way to make it better), and Mario agrees. Luigi decides to tag along too, and the Wario Bros. go because they want the treasure.
All of this is overheard by Kammy Koopa, would tells Bowser, and now he's after the treasure.

Later on, you discover that it isn't mearly treasure, but something that could destroy the world or whatever, something bad. And now, your motives go beyond just helping the Toad.

tl;dr - please read it i can't sum it up :[


This is just what I think would be cool. It could be tweaked in any way to fit together with some of your guys ideas, or to just make it better, but yeah.

Everyone who suggested or plans to suggest villains like "King K Rool" or "Wart", you need to keep in mind that the more stuff you mix together, the more WORK needs to be done.

Smithy's creator would probably be ok, but I dislike the idea of the Mecha Black Sugar Pirates, since we would then need to redesign all enemies and give them mechanic ... stuff.


Also, I like Glukom's idea of not being able to play as everyone from the beginning.



Anyway, I think we've come to the point where pretty much everyone agrees that we should have Bowser and Syrup involved + an extra villain who stands above of the two, no?

With that in mind, please continue discussion.

Boss wise, it would probably be a good idea to get Petey Piranha in there somewhere, since he turns up in just about every Mario game anymore.

Ya.
Lets go with your boss list.

I was sort of hoping we could have the boss of CFP Breakout somewhere in the space world. Product synergy an' all that.

Is Smithy's Creator going to be a new character, or will we use an already existing character?

As far as I know nobody knows Smithy's creator, and I for my part am not even sure if he has one... So it would have to be a new character.
Unless of course someone expects the story to be so complex that somebody we know turns out to be his creator, but I don't think that's a good idea.

EDIT: Altogether I'm actually not so much for that "smithy's creator" thing.

I have to agree... Smithy's creator isn't a bad idea, but I think it would work better in a RPG as a sequel or something.
That would work more if we did a CFP3, which could be an RPG. I dunno.

I must agree to that statement.

But then who is the main bad guy instead of Smithy's creator...?

Perhaps this dude.


Dex made sprites of him for a different role in the first CFP, so maybe we could use him for the main bad guy.

Also, what do you guys think of my idea? Just curious.

Dex (or was it Tri?) and had an interesting idea that involves an existing character, so you can ask me to post that here or not, in any case IF we went for that idea, I'm sure that the villain will have sprites and such when the time comes.

Not saying my idea is sure to be liked by you, but still, IF we went for it, it would be a major spoiler, that's why I didn't want to say it out loud here.

EDIT: That Aurian guy looks good too. We might go with him.

It's hard to say. We're all working on the game, but a lot of the people that aren't can still see this topic, and it would be a big spoiler.

I would say PM it to people that want to hear about it.

How about another meeting in the IRC for such things? ^_^

I'll open a channel called CFPchat again, and I'm there. Whoever wants to hear it comes to the IRC chat.