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| QUOTE (Lightning @ Sep 14 2008, 08:26 PM) | ... does it hurt to think like that? |
Yes, assuming they also consider freedom to be something positive to be striven toward. Because license to do what one pleases should not be striven toward at all.
Most people desire to do certain things that are destructive to others or to society in some way. The more license is given, the more those people will do whatever immoral things they want to do, and the more society will be wrecked.
| QUOTE (Raccoon Sam) | | Well, it's your body. ... So you can kinda do whatever you want to it. |
Even if "as long as you do it to yourself, it's fine" were an ethically sound idea (which it really isn't due partly to factors such as setting examples for others), she's not the only one involved; she's asking other people to engage in the same activities with her. So that argument doesn't really justify this.
| QUOTE (HardMan) | No. That is exactly what freedom is.
Does that mean there are no consequences for these actions? No. But you are free to actually do them. |
Nope, pretty sure freedom in the proper sense means being unaffected by coercion that infringes upon one's rights.
By your definition, it would probably be interpreted as a "lack of freedom" when people take preventative measures to keep burglars out of houses, because the poor, oppressed burglars are not being allowed to act as they please. According to that definition, wouldn't "freedom" require that burglars only be punished after they've already done the deed?
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Women choose to be strippers. That's legal. Lap dances are legal. They made that choice and it empowers them. How is taking it one step further illegal?
For that matter, why is alimony legal but prostitution is not? They're one in the same: you're paying the woman to leave.
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| QUOTE (BAWWWWWW) | 1. Seriously, stop all of the hate on the Wii and leave Nintendo alone! 2. And this is coming from the self-proclaimed Sony fanboy who only plays mature rated games for hardcore gamers such as yourself. 3. you look for two minutes and we'll find one of your nice little "wii sux" comments 4. we've heard it too much from you, so go with your other "ps3 0wnz da wee" friends and leave the nintendo supporters alone for once 5. let me tell you about my sexuality even though nobody asked. . . |
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How willingly - They lay their love. How willingly - They sacrifice themselves, To the locust master - to the one that drowned the world. How willingly - They lay their love. How willingly - They sacrifice themselves, To the bringer of hunger - To the one that drowned the world.
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| QUOTE (Grant @ Sep 14 2008, 08:51 PM) | Yes, assuming they also consider freedom to be something positive to be striven toward. Because license to do what one pleases should not be striven toward at all.
Most people desire to do certain things that are destructive to others or to society in some way. The more license is given, the more those people will do whatever immoral things they want to do, and the more society will be wrecked. |
I think you understood my question: does it hurt you to think like that
also, define "immoral" (and prove the validity of each "moral" with which it conflicts for extra credit). what is immoral about what this woman is doing? why?
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| QUOTE (PSI Guy @ Sep 15 2008, 06:19 AM) | | Well, if I were in college, I'd be pretty pissed about this girl who just *****s herself off to get into the same thing I spent years saving for, so I guess the whole taking easy way out thing is bad to other people. |
what's so bad about it? just because you're jealous of her method? that's not a very good reason to condemn it.
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