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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:23 AM
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Finally,
Midas Machine Plan:
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Okay, The midas machine's only mobile attack if you may is to control that mirror,
But come on, Only a mirror? Well That thing above the machine is a light that shoots
out a beam that the mirror would need to reflect to hit mario, got it?
So somehow, I don't know how yet, Mario needs to reflect the beam tho hit the Midas,
While the Midas is down, the glass containing the hand of midas opens so mario needs to hit the hand while it's down,
once the midas fixes itself, the process repeats.

That's all i have so far :P


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 07:32 AM
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That seems incredibly simaler to the nova reactor (or whatever that one is called) from KSSU. And what does a laser and mirror have to do with the midas machine.

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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 03:10 PM
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Yak, I like your design of the Midas Machine. But maybe it should have more direct attacks (like, it could start off with something like what you mentioned, but it would go into some more brutal physical attacks after being hit).


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 03:15 PM
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Yeah, I was thinking for the Machine, it could have a less generic design. I mean, a giant metal box with random knobs and switches? Come on, we can do better than that.


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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Jun 15 2009, 09:15 PM)
Yeah, I was thinking for the Machine, it could have a less generic design. I mean, a giant metal box with random knobs and switches? Come on, we can do better than that.

well the knobs and switches aren't random smile.gif
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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE (Guinea @ Jun 15 2009, 03:16 PM)
well the knobs and switches aren't random smile.gif

My point being that it needs some personality, something to make it from a machine with a face like design, to a character in its own.


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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Jun 15 2009, 09:39 PM)
My point being that it needs some personality, something to make it from a machine with a face like design, to a character in its own.

Oh ok =)
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Posted: Jun 16 2009, 02:21 AM
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New Design and Idea.
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What I was going for here is a flower design, The bud is closed as the Player walks
in the room but those Midas Machine Controlled "Mirrobots" are hanging around the
machine and the lights are on, you need to disable the Mirrobots and reflect the
light on the hand logos on the bud, once that is done the bud opens and there is this
Robot thing inside which controls the machine and then the Robot thing lets loose
the claws, now you need to disable the robot by damaging it a few times,
once that is done, get the robot out of the machine and now you control it for a
little while, in that time you need to control the claws and hit the hand "power souce"
above you for a number of times then the machine kicks you out, the robot is in control again
then the bud closes and mirrobots come again and you have to repeat the procces.
I was thinking after you do this after the second time the claws then shoot lasers that
you have to dodge and then after the 4th time it shoots something else then 6th time
kills it.


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Yeah. That's perfect. I hope it doesn't contradict with anything already decided on.
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Posted: Jun 16 2009, 09:25 AM
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Hmmm... I love the design, but I'm not so sure about the mirror bots. So, are you saying that they are in a dark room the robots can reflect light? What light are they reflecting?

And not only that, but why does light make a machine open? Yeah, it looks like a flower and all but still.


Don't get me wrong, I'm liking the design, just not the battle plan exactly.

edit- On second thought, it also lacks a real Mario feel imo.


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Posted: Jun 17 2009, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Jun 17 2009, 12:25 AM)
Hmmm... I love the design, but I'm not so sure about the mirror bots. So, are you saying that they are in a dark room the robots can reflect light? What light are they reflecting?

And not only that, but why does light make a machine open? Yeah, it looks like a flower and all but still.


Don't get me wrong, I'm liking the design, just not the battle plan exactly.

edit- On second thought, it also lacks a real Mario feel imo.

There are lights near the hand. XP
That's what the Mirrobots reflect,
maybe make the lights a heat beam heating up the flower possibly?
And maybe make the mirrobots a Goomba or Koopa form for a Mario Feel?
Oh and heres what i was think battle phase wise.
(when the bot is exposed)
in 1st and 2nd turn- Claws try to smoosh mario

in the 3rd and 4th turn - Claws try to smoosh mario and Shoot flames at Mario

Final Turn- RAGE! summons gold goombas and koopas etc and throws flames rapidly.



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QUOTE (Yak @ Jun 17 2009, 01:07 AM)
There are lights near the hand. XP
That's what the Mirrobots reflect,
maybe make the lights a heat beam heating up the flower possibly?
And maybe make the mirrobots a Goomba or Koopa form for a Mario Feel?
Oh and heres what i was think battle phase wise.
(when the bot is exposed)
in 1st and 2nd turn- Claws try to smoosh mario

in the 3rd and 4th turn - Claws try to smoosh mario and Shoot flames at Mario

Final Turn- RAGE! summons gold goombas and koopas etc and throws flames rapidly.

What I'm wondering is if the mirror stuff is really needed? It just doesn't sound fitting for the near final boss. I mean, if done properly then yeah, anything could work, but from the sounds of it, you are trying to shine some light on it in general? I mean, that's a pretty big design flaw. What if I had a flashlight?.


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Posted: Jun 17 2009, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Jun 17 2009, 09:30 PM)
What I'm wondering is if the mirror stuff is really needed? It just doesn't sound fitting for the near final boss. I mean, if done properly then yeah, anything could work, but from the sounds of it, you are trying to shine some light on it in general? I mean, that's a pretty big design flaw. What if I had a flashlight?.

I get what you mean,
I kinda liked the idea of mirrors though :(
oh well.

But i think we should think of an alternative to mirrors... maybe throw koopa shells at the bud
till it breaks?


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QUOTE (Yak @ Jun 17 2009, 06:57 AM)
I get what you mean,
I kinda liked the idea of mirrors though sad.gif
oh well.

But i think we should think of an alternative to mirrors... maybe throw koopa shells at the bud
till it breaks?

Or mayber have multiple giant plugs, plugged into the wall that you pull to turn off its deffenses.


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Posted: Jun 18 2009, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Jun 18 2009, 12:05 AM)
Or mayber have multiple giant plugs, plugged into the wall that you pull to turn off its deffenses.

Yeah!
or are you being sarcastic?

If so, maube an aletnative to plugs like something like reactors?


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Or, how about you need to DEPRIVE the machine of light so it loses energy and lowers it's defenses? Huh? HUH?


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QUOTE (Yak @ Jun 18 2009, 04:00 AM)
Yeah!
or are you being sarcastic?

If so, maube an aletnative to plugs like something like reactors?

No, I was being serious.


@ BB- Having an evil machine be eco friendly sounds... weird.


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Posted: Jun 19 2009, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Jun 20 2009, 02:37 PM)
No, I was being serious.

Well in that case,
what if you can go inside the machine itself and the core "power source" is blocked by
the bud defence and there are these seperate 3 rooms of 3 plugs you have to unplug
and there are these 3 minbosses blocking the plug so after you unplug all 3 you
go to the core and see the defence gone and final battle starts :D


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QUOTE (Yak @ Jun 19 2009, 11:43 PM)
Well in that case,
what if you can go inside the machine itself and the core "power source" is blocked by
the bud defence and there are these seperate 3 rooms of 3 plugs you have to unplug
and there are these 3 minbosses blocking the plug so after you unplug all 3 you
go to the core and see the defence gone and final battle starts biggrin.gif

Thats probably over complicating it.


Although it did give me an idea...


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QUOTE (Shyguy Grey @ Jun 20 2009, 02:55 PM)
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