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Mods, sticky please. There's been a few different problems circulating on this server, but it's all been too sparse to pinpoint or address. I have personally been observing problems. Some of you have also observed them. And some of you have not. Now I need you to help me collect some data so that I can continue my discussion upstream and maybe have this account transferred to a new hardware node. When you notice that MFGG randomly slows down significantly (like this evening), or randomly doesn't respond for many seconds or even times out, I want you to pay attention and do the following things (and for heaven's sake, write down your results!): - In a separate tab or browser window, as quickly as you can, check another taloncrossing site (MFGG main site, Kanagi Stadium, Taloncrossing itself) and see if you also experience problems there. If you don't it's _probably_ your browser being flaky, or a very isolated server event that's part of the natural cycle of things. Also check another, completely independent website to confirm it's not your own network problem.
- Still having problems? What exactly is happening? As I said, there are different problems circulating. Does the page eventually load? Does it time out with an error message? I want to know what that message is.
- If the page eventually loads, copy the server load and execution time from the bottom of the page. If the load or execution time is high, you can bet that some element of the server is overloaded. If they're near zero, then something else is up.
- When reporting your findings, include the browser you're using.
If you have the time or knowhow, you can also try pinging taloncrossing. My main goal here is to see what the real distribution of problems is. At this point I don't know if most of the trouble is load cropping up periodically, or this mystery "no load no response" phenomenon that I've experienced and maybe some of you have as well. Or if there's still relics of a problem months ago with network connections being dropped. Keep paying attention, you may find that you don't observe the same problem each time. If you want, you can summarize what you've experienced in the past few weeks, which may help give me a general idea of what's going on, but after that, I want future posts to contain data. This post has been edited by Retriever II on Oct 10 2008, 02:25 AM
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that help topic i made pretty much explains everything, but:
1. for me at least, slowdowns aren't really random; sure i can't pinpoint exactly when it'll slow down, but i know it'll be at least a few hours after i last cleared cookies
2. again, other taloncrossing sites don't do this as far as i've seen
3. execution time and server load are about the same as they've always been, in the low hundredths
4. pages load at least 98% of the time, but sometimes they'll time out
5. pretty much anything regarding sending information to the server is always slow; anything regarding getting information is slow until i clear cookies, in which case it'll speed up for a short time
6. firefox 3.0.3; again, problems started happening around the time i updated to 3.0.2
pinging taloncrossing either while it was fast or slow got me around 80-90ms each ping so
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yeah so i've been using ie on mfgg for a while and can now say it does in fact do the same gradual slowdown thing as firefox
so i guess that might eliminate browser issues
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yeah my problems definitely happen all over taloncrossing, now that i've started visiting the other sites more often since then
so i guess this makes it a little... easier? now that it isn't actually an obscure localized mfgg problem
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right, so i'll quite often get "Network Timeout" pages in firefox while browsing the forums, or more annoyingly when i post
they go away on the next refresh (which i do pretty much immediately) so i really don't have time to ping the server or anything
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| QUOTE (Retriever II @ Oct 10 2008, 12:53 PM) | 1. In a separate tab or browser window, as quickly as you can, check another taloncrossing site (MFGG main site, Kanagi Stadium, Taloncrossing itself) and see if you also experience problems there. If you don't it's _probably_ your browser being flaky, or a very isolated server event that's part of the natural cycle of things. Also check another, completely independent website to confirm it's not your own network problem. 2. Still having problems? What exactly is happening? As I said, there are different problems circulating. Does the page eventually load? Does it time out with an error message? I want to know what that message is. 3. If the page eventually loads, copy the server load and execution time from the bottom of the page. If the load or execution time is high, you can bet that some element of the server is overloaded. If they're near zero, then something else is up. 4. When reporting your findings, include the browser you're using. |
Okay, so, MFGG is REALLY slow for me today. 1. No success  2. MFGG loads, KS times out, TC.com just whitescreens. 3. [ Script Execution time: 30.2070 ] [ 13 queries used ] [ GZIP Enabled ] [ Server Load: 0.24 ] 4. Firefox 3.0.3
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