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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 12:06 AM
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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 04:09 AM
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QUOTE (Glukom @ Nov 30 2008, 02:52 AM)
I really hope the whole "pixel-art" debate doesn't come back in this topic, because there are a lot of cool entries that many people may wrongfully accuse of being not allowed in sprite comps

There is a point to the debate: what the hell am I supposed to do with only the nicely-done head of Bowser Jr.?


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QUOTE (LocoRoo @ Nov 30 2008, 10:09 AM)
There is a point to the debate: what the hell am I supposed to do with only the nicely-done head of Bowser Jr.?

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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 04:35 AM
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QUOTE (LocoRoo @ Nov 30 2008, 06:09 PM)
There is a point to the debate: what the hell am I supposed to do with only the nicely-done head of Bowser Jr.?

Entries don't necessarily have to be useful. They can be there to look pretty. Look at some of SGG's sprites. Some of his entries aren't exactly useful if you want to put it into a game (the Blooper with legs and the current entry are a few I know of), yet people vote because they think it's amazing.

Then again, my personal philosophy is quality+quantity over quality over quantity.
Your voting preferences are different from mine though, so meh.

Also, how is your post related to the one that is quoted? Glukom talks about "pixel art" and why people think it shouldn't be allowed (when in reality, Spriting and Pixel Art are basically the same thing, just that Pixel art looks less pixely (to me) and isn't always intended for games), and you want to bring up a quality or quantity debate.

I see a very vague similarity.

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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 05:53 AM
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QUOTE (Soiyeruda @ Nov 30 2008, 11:35 AM)
Also, how is your post related to the one that is quoted? Glukom talks about "pixel art" and why people think it shouldn't be allowed (when in reality, Spriting and Pixel Art are basically the same thing, just that Pixel art looks less pixely (to me) and isn't always intended for games), and you want to bring up a quality or quantity debate.

I see a very vague similarity.

I think he means the "pixel art is not allowed"-debate.

And there is a difference between pixelart and sprites. I can't use this as a character in my game. And it's pixel art.

Saying that pixelart and sprites are the same is like saying that cubism and realistic painting is the same style because it's just paint in a canvas.

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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 06:41 AM
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But what's the point of bringing up the "How the hell is this useful?" statement?

In a sprite competition, is it necessary for a sprite to be useful? Most likely no, but it would increase your odds of winning by doing so.

You must be viewing spriting and pixel art as two different subjects. I view it as spriting being a branch of pixel art. Am I wrong for having this opinion? Or are there rules of pixel art and spriting that are written in stone which I've never heard of?

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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (Soiyeruda @ Nov 30 2008, 01:41 PM)
But what's the point of bringing up the "How the hell is this useful?" statement?

In a sprite competition, is it necessary for a sprite to be useful? Most likely no, but it would increase your odds of winning by doing so.

You must be viewing spriting and pixel art as two different subjects. I view it as spriting being a branch of pixel art. Am I wrong for having this opinion? Or are there rules of pixel art and spriting that are written in stone which I've never heard of?

Things are usually made because they are to be used for something. For example, Nintendo doesn't make games that they don't want anyone to buy.

You've got a point here (sort of), but IMO it's always better that the sprite can be used. I don't need 7 different Bowser heads for my game thank you.

They are. And if you view them as "branches", it should be "pixelart is a branch of spriting", not the other way around. And how can you think spriting and pixel art are the same? As I already said, it's like saying that cubism and realistic painting is the same style because it's just paint in a canvas.

According to your logic, if I draw a picture with Photoshop, it should count as a sprite for the sprite compo because it is made out of pixels.

And iirc, you need animations for your sprite. What animations can you do with the head of Bowser Jr.? Blinking shouldn't be accepted IMO.


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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 10:37 AM
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Locoro you are obviously not understanding the point of pixel art. Jusr because something doesn't move does NOT mean it is not useful. Pixelart is every bit as useful as a sprite sheet. They are both counted is pixel art, it's just the other is smaller and animated. Therefore does not mean either is not useful. We don't have to follow nintendo's rules, it is all simply art. "And all art is useful"

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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 12:19 PM
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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE (CoolYoshi @ Nov 30 2008, 05:37 PM)
Locoro you are obviously not understanding the point of pixel art. Jusr because something doesn't move does NOT mean it is not useful. Pixelart is every bit as useful as a sprite sheet. They are both counted is pixel art, it's just the other is smaller and animated. Therefore does not mean either is not useful. We don't have to follow nintendo's rules, it is all simply art. "And all art is useful"

Pixelart can be used in title screens and icons.

Sprites can be used as playable characters, enemies, in cutscenes and so on.

TALK ABOUT ME BEING WRONG HUH

And if you want to be "arty", why don't you partake in a drawing comp? Sprites are meant for comics, games and such, art (as in real art, such as paintings n' stuff) is useful for like nothing but looking. And notice pixelart.


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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 12:32 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Inky @ Nov 30 2008, 12:19 PM)
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I hope early today Pucifur comes back to start the voting.


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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 01:47 PM
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I'm not debating in this, but after the DK compo, PIXEL ART WAS DEEMED NOT ALLOWED. End of problem; CoolYoshi and Solink, unless they can quickly pull an entry outta their asses, are disqualified. Oh, and Go Buy Melons

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Posted: Nov 30 2008, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (M. Bison @ Nov 30 2008, 10:47 AM)
I'm not debating in this, but after the DK compo, PIXEL ART WAS DEEMED NOT ALLOWED. End of problem; CoolYoshi and Solink, unless they can quickly pull an entry outta their asses, are disqualified. Oh, and Go Buy Melons

The standards for what is and is not considered non-sprite are given in the original post. If Pucifur doesn't forbid it and it's not some bg'd 500x400 image with 48 colors, it's fine. Unless, that is, you can link me to some blanket post that's obvious to members here--otherwise, it's a "screw you, you didn't know" angle. Until then, no disqualifications.

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GBM made a sprite. That's cearly not a pixel art.


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Just don't vote for the pixel art if you're not happy.

And yes, anyone can start the voting provided it's at the right time.


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QUOTE (M. Bison @ Nov 30 2008, 08:52 PM)


I'm not trying to be rude here, so sorry if it sounded so.

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QUOTE (Funky @ Nov 30 2008, 02:06 PM)
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