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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE (Razz @ Feb 22 2009, 11:47 PM)
BUT NNNK IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD YOU'LL GO TO HELL

And I don't want you to go to hell because I care about you! So I'll be a jerk to you because you don't believe the same as me!!! And watch as all the non-religious folks see my actions and use it as an excuse to bash religious people

razz are you sure you're not my dad he acts just like this


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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 01:10 AM
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QUOTE (Razz @ Feb 22 2009, 11:47 PM)
BUT NNNK IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD YOU'LL GO TO HELL

And I don't want you to go to hell because I care about you! So I'll be a jerk to you because you don't believe the same as me!!! And watch as all the non-religious folks see my actions and use it as an excuse to bash religious people because we're all jerks!!!!11

*punch*

I know this post was sarcstic, but you brought up some good points

My entire philosophy is to accept other people for what they are.
So what if they are a different religion than me?
I have no proof that either of us is right, or wrong, so why not just accept us for us and live life to the fullest?


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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 01:10 AM
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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE (Promenade @ Feb 22 2009, 09:58 PM)
razz are you sure you're not my dad he acts just like this

That is a reaaally awkward question ...

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I know this post was sarcstic, but you brought up some good points

Whoa that's new.

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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 02:36 AM
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QUOTE (Nnnkingston @ Feb 23 2009, 01:10 AM)
I know this post was sarcstic, but you brought up some good points

My entire philosophy is to accept other people for what they are.
So what if they are a different religion than me?
I have no proof that either of us is right, or wrong, so why not just accept us for us and live life to the fullest?

you sound like you don't really believe in anything

as far as religion OR lack thereof is concerned



and if it's because you haven't yet found any belief system that's convinced you, maybe that's a sign that you ought to keep looking..?


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QUOTE (Grant @ Feb 23 2009, 02:36 AM)
you sound like you don't really believe in anything

as far as religion OR lack thereof is concerned



and if it's because you haven't yet found any belief system that's convinced you, maybe that's a sign that you ought to keep looking..?

Just not caring is apparently not an option?
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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 02:55 AM
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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Feb 23 2009, 02:39 AM)
Just not caring is apparently not an option?

Not a valid one, no.


All belief systems, whether religious or non-religious, include beliefs that certain things are not acceptable, morally/ethically speaking. "Not caring" means dismissing all such "restrictions" characteristic of belief systems.

Now consider whichever belief system actually is right, even if it should have no official name (just the set of all correct ideas, including the correct ideas about what's unacceptable). Someone who "doesn't care" dismisses everything in that belief system, since that person dismisses all belief systems. That means the person doesn't care about the right ideas about what's unacceptable, and therefore will tolerate what should not be tolerated, which is a morally problematic sort of toleration.


(Note: Not replying to any more posts on this subject in this topic, due to it being derailment. If the discussion is continued elsewhere, I probably will reply.)


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QUOTE (Grant @ Feb 23 2009, 02:55 AM)
Not a valid one, no.


All belief systems, whether religious or non-religious, include beliefs that certain things are not acceptable, morally/ethically speaking. "Not caring" means dismissing all such "restrictions" characteristic of belief systems.

Now consider whichever belief system actually is right, even if it should have no official name (just the set of all correct ideas, including the correct ideas about what's unacceptable). Someone who "doesn't care" dismisses everything in that belief system, since that person dismisses all belief systems. That means the person doesn't care about the right ideas about what's unacceptable, and therefore will tolerate what should not be tolerated, which is a morally problematic sort of toleration.


(Note: Not replying to any more posts on this subject in this topic, due to it being derailment. If the discussion is continued elsewhere, I probably will reply.)

Yes, according to Grant, but you do know there are actually legit moral/ethical schools of thought revolving around the notion of "to each their own," right? In other words, these ideals say "nothing is inherently wrong, and every person has their own opinion of wrong and to force one's own opinion onto others or expect certain things of others is not allowed." I was under the impression this was more or less the belief system Nnnkingston was driving at.

Also I think there's a difference between not caring and not having a belief system at all. One's morality can be spontaneous and subjective.

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I find it deliciously ironic how people choose a religion to have some sort of peace and stability in their lives, but are blissfully unaware that they're just creating another definition to/barrier around themselves that fuels hate and causes uncertainty.

Slightly off topic but yea.


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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 05:26 AM
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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 09:24 AM
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Holy crap, they're STILL in a bunch about this? Wasn't that cartoon last year?

Damnit, so stupid...


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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (Badassbill @ Feb 23 2009, 03:16 AM)
I find it deliciously ironic how people choose a religion to have some sort of peace and stability in their lives, but are blissfully unaware that they're just creating another definition to/barrier around themselves that fuels hate and causes uncertainty.

Slightly off topic but yea.

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Posted: Feb 23 2009, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE (Parakarry @ Feb 23 2009, 03:24 PM)
Holy crap, they're STILL in a bunch about this? Wasn't that cartoon last year?

more like several years ago


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