My Theory On Femininism

I am too being constructive.

Yes, that's what I mean by goal; but wanting to be successful at a job doesn't necisarily mean that you want attention. And yes, some women would need diplomas and go to school to achieve such things. And whether it is intended or not, one gets attention for doing so.

Yes, actually, but I plan to obtain said money through more productive means than getting a job.

I also never really diagreed with your "Anti-feminist" world, I simply stated that I don't want to be a housewife. I also don't want to get a job. My time is too important to waste on working just so I can keep living. It seems really pointless to me, and I could go off on a huge rant about how working for money is less than productive, but that's not really on topic.

Well, it all depends on what you're going for. If the father of the family does not make enough cash, then it is the wife's obligation to go find a job to get some income. War itself has played a major role in our federal debt and economic struggle. I can't believe that I'm saying our.

I'm not very educated on this subject, but I'll say that this idea of women being productive isn't really a bad idea. If the problem is that the workforce is being payed too much (which I really don't agree with, at least in my case, because I'm a poor *******.), then they should be balanced out somehow. In my opinion, all women should be encouraged into getting a job.

One problem that I believe that exists today, is that women depend way too much on men and they want liberties they already have and whatnot. In my experience, most women just want to get married so they can live off their husbands, and having kids as a commitment. Even from personal experience. I'd say it'd be a good idea to balance things out, instead of encouraging women to become housewives.

Then what are you going to do?

Also, no need for such dark sarcasm.

What sarcasm are you refering to? There was none in my last post.

How so?

To be successful you need the attention of others, no? If others did not recognize that whatever it is you did or made was not amazing or special, then what you have done is not successful, right? Also, I ask you again -- is a high salary, a white-collar job, or even just someone saying "Wow, you have a degree in law!" not just another form of attention? Is it not just a sugar-coated way of saying "I want people to notice me and my achievements?" So is success not the attention of others in your definition of the word?

uuum... YOU WON'T HAVE A LIVING IF YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB!! but you will have LOTS of time on your hands!

unless your LIFE is talking to yourself in an alleyway somewhere (like most hobos do)

This post has been edited by MR.1UP on Feb 24 2009, 07:35 PM

I just am.

No, it isn't. Sure, you need the attention of others to be successful, but that doesn't mean you're doing it for just attention.

What may that be, praytell? I'd like to make some extra cash too -- I need to pay off these student loans!

See my conversation with Pieman a few pages back; it addresses these concerns.

I didn't say women shouldn't be productive, I said that they should be productive in ways that men, being an integral part of the workforce, are not productive. In other words -- imagine family life as a set of two jobs: the house work and the work at one's occupation. Now, would it be more efficient for both people to take care of both jobs individually (one at each job), or both work on one, and then the other? I believe the former would be more practical, no? Also, I never said the workforce was being paid too much; please read my post again.

There's MUCH better ways of obtaining money other than working. Using people who work is one such way. You just have to know the system well. Yeah, I know people are going to call me horrible for using other people to acheive what I want, but hey, someone is willing to do jobs that I refuse to.

any more detail than that, because **** yeah I'd love money but no work

Like running a business?

you'd make a good dictator

Very convincing reasoning there, Saberie. I must say, I'm baffled by such metaphorical, abstract thought and intellectual intuition.

So then why else are you doing it? You already cut out the motivation of getting the diploma for the sake of knowledge, and the only other reason you brought up for having a diploma is this vaguely-defined "success" -- which you admit to being all about attention.

I fail to see where you're going with your self-defeating arguments.

that actually is a lot of work- work isn't necessarily manual labor

My stance is that "Equal Rights" feminism is fine, but "Radical" feminism (AKA "Feminazis") is wrong. (OK, I didn't read EVERY single post. So?)

..So whats the point of keeping them?

Might as well put them up for adoption if you don't want to bother to give them any love.

and you need MONEY to invest in a business

unless your lucky and have a family member who is the owner and passes the job to you.. like Tommy Boy

This post has been edited by MR.1UP on Feb 24 2009, 07:43 PM

Well, if everyone did it, it wouldn't work, because you have to use people who are willing to work for you to get money.

Something like that.

Tee hee, I'll take that as a compliment.

hahaha ok