We really need to start reinforcing the age rule

wait, so there's really only one admin that handles this stuff, and he's given his statement and said it's not changing

and also that PMs are the way to go


so we're all done here, then, no reason for further argument

if you think reporting me is the right thing to do, then do it

if i don't stand by whatever i post, i delete it

It's a stupidity rule, not an always-be-rational-or-else rule.

oh hey are we now discussing loopholes in the rules, because that's a different topic all-together and i suppose we could argue about that


oh wait, sorry, all discussion of loopholing the rules is null and void because you aren't allowed to attempt loopholing the rules

The "rule" is very open, so I don't see why it can't be interpreted how you just said.


I mean not that I do but that's not the point.

Because as you were saying to me yesterday, if you were to interpret the rule that way, then our site would have a tiny userbase and not get the traffic it needs.

Which brings me to "this rule needs some srs tweaking"

Iuhhhhhhhhhhhh, I don't really see where we're going with this :S

The majority of Teens on the internet aren't up to MFGG's standards when it comes to behaviour. You can thank poor moderation practises on giant sites like YouTube, Myspace/Facebook/whatever, 4chan, etc. etc. for that. If everywhere was moderated reasonably well the problem wouldn't exist. But that's practically impossible considering the scale of some sites. MFGG isn't exactly knowledge central which is though is something I want to improve, isn't solved by kicking everyone out who has an IQ less than a certain number. You simply take steps to make that number higher.

There is no real correlation between age and behaviour on the internet. As you get older you expect people to become more mature but it can backfire if the hormones kick in at full blast. For example, you spent the first year here wihout causing a stir, but you've got a few bans since. Any teen that starts becoming an internet regular will probably need training to some degree. A lot of people that I've seen banned started off as great members. A lot of people that started off bad became good.

I've seen people in their 20s act a lot worse than people below 13 or so. When they're young it's a lot easier to get them to change for the better. However, age on the internet shouldn't matter otherwise. I'm considerably younger than some of the people I administrate yet I got this job regardless. Start restricting people on age and you start to lose the balance that MFGG's built its success from.

I and many others benefitted from starting at a different community, so had their days of embarrassment elsewhere first. But these good communities don't exist in the same number as they did in the day because as time goes on the communities that survive combine and merge into others. MFGG arguably has a significant proportion of ZFGN's old community etc. Point is it's unwise to expect everyone in the world ever to know how forums work. Every forum gets these sorts of people. Training them up helps the community more than randomly dumping them elsewhere. Stupidity rule covers those who simply cannot be "trained" as such.

As I have also said in the past if the way things work here doesn't float your boat you're always welcome to go find a place where their moderation practises will. The "age restriction rule" is one of the most unfair rules we've ever had on this forum, so it makes no sense to bring it back. Especially when it's not been proven to work.

the point where I prove you're contradicting yourself or prove you're wrong or something, as usual.

actually you're both taking your argument out of this topic because you just bypassed BS's amazing post, tsk tsk

I'm not trying to disprove BS. I've got no qualm with him or his argument.

After an administrator comes and wall-of-text's us so excellently like this, the topic is hardly worth continuing any more really

It's so nice to see the "long=excellent" identity used in practices outside human anatomy!.!.

This post has been edited by Tony Trombone on Mar 7 2009, 03:28 PM

you missed it and put in your post immediately after by arguing

you ruined the awesome moment

Oh, sorry.

Is it any retribution if I concede that it was a good post?

yes :>


also, mark this on your calendars - first day Yoshiman used ":>" in a post on MFGG

also i think this topic's done nows






I did nows too

it was hot

whatever it was