President Obama lifts Bush's ban, on embryonic stem cell research

If it comes from a cow's rectum

it is pretty natural

p.s. chemicals can be natural????

Holy **** what.

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I was making fun of you/him/whoever was assuming stem cells could be made into bombs or whatever you thought.

Seems as though you didn't quite understand what I meant. I really wanted to refrain from posting, but it seems I'm no better than all of you.

I was referring to the effort the State put forth into the Manhattan project, I wasn't comparing the projects themselves. You want to chow on some grade A fetus? Great. Find some investors, better yet...foreign investors. Why not just privatize the whole deal and sell them in cans, make a whole damn franchise and then we'll all be happy as hell.

I hope I'm misunderstanding, but... are you saying that you don't want them to put effort into trying to cure deadly diseases? I'm tired, so I may have misunderstood. Or are you saying that you don't want them to put as much effort into curing diseases as they put into creating the Nuke? I'd rather them cure diseases, so I'd prefer more effort than was put into the Manhattan Project.

I'm going to put this bluntly as I can: I am rich. Goddamn rich. Filthy rich.

Programs like this require money. This money mostly comes out of my commissions. I score an annual contract at the beginning of the year, whoop de do. 5mill each month, good for me, right? Wrong. 25% of that goes to humanitarian projects thanks to Bush, and a good portion of it goes to projects like this in the form of all of the various taxes Uncle Sam have blessed me with. First I pay for children that aren't even mine, because children are virtually the tax-vampires of our nation, and now I have to pay for the unborn ones too? Kill yourself.

EDIT: With MUD taxes and property taxes, I may as well give China my business and leave the country. It isn't even worth it here anymore, they even tax you for every item of inventory you haven't sold for that month.

This post has been edited by NeoDasus on Mar 11 2009, 12:34 AM

Proof that the body is needed to "tweak" the cells and grow an organism.

http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics2.asp

Besides, scientists have apparently been working on moving away from using embryonic stem cells anyways.

This post has been edited by SonicProject on Mar 11 2009, 12:42 AM

Hmmm.... To tell y'all the truth, I'm still not sure of this... This could help us greatly or cause more harm then good. To kill potential life to save other lives. That does something to you moral, but then again, the whole thing is in a gray area. I'll watch and see how this thing goes.

I've been noticing some of you guys on this board put WAY too much faith in Science, alone.

Nobody is going to make a stem cell gene bomb.

At least, not right now. But it's likely not going to happen.

I can't think of a single reason why anyone would be against stem-cell research.

i heard that stem cells can be taken from an umbilical cord

i don't know if it has to be before the birth, but if not, doctors can just take it when the cut it off and use it for people who need it

This was my impression before this news, and if things end up that way then I suppose the only ones still complaining shouldn't have a say for being ignorant of the situation anyway.

*Leaves self wide open for cheeky joke about religion and ignorance*

There is potential that an embryo could successfully develop into a child, but there is also potential that an embryo could develop into a stillborn. The factor that remains the same in both scenarios is that the embryo is not a child yet. For this reason it is ludicrous to characterize stem cell research as murder/abortion/wtf and ban it despite the fact that the research could benefit mankind in lieu of cures. I think it's excellent that Obama made this move, and yet I worry that because of this the anti-stems will push to vote him out of office when election comes around once more.

This post has been edited by SonicProject on Mar 11 2009, 04:30 PM