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I don't see why you guys need to keep going with this. I think he's got the point.

It's starting to edge towards flaming.


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QUOTE (Kyori @ Apr 14 2009, 12:58 PM)
I don't see why you guys need to keep going with this. I think he's got the point.

It's starting to edge towards flaming.

How so?

Clearly he hasn't quite got the point yet seeing as he's continued to commit the same offense for quite some time now.

Also, seeing as none of us have made any personal attacks or assertions yet, really, I don't see how it could be categorized as "flaming."
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QUOTE (cappy @ Apr 14 2009, 06:16 AM)
And I am going to collage, you CAN do that here. I know people here that
do it because of issues with their parents.

Well you can do that anywhere so long as you have the cash.





As for the whole Hippoman thing I've never really seen it as boasting. He's simply commenting on the "relationships" he has had. I mean if I were to talk about my relationships I would simply mention the dinner dates, the fun nights in playing Risk, and basically the stuff I'm used to doing in MY relationships. I mean we often hear about what Mr and Mrs A have been up to whether it be dinner or a movie or what have you, but being that Hippo goes more for the quick encounter style, the only real thing he can mention about the relationship IS the sex. It's just his "norm", and while that may seem odd to many of us, I'm sure he knows what risks may be involved, being that he's obviously (at least I'd say so) a fairly smart fellow, and has chosen a lifestyle that suits him.


That's just my two cents.


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QUOTE (Piemanthe3rd @ Apr 14 2009, 02:02 PM)
As for the whole Hippoman thing I've never really seen it as boasting. He's simply commenting on the "relationships" he has had. I mean if I were to talk about my relationships I would simply mention the dinner dates, the fun nights in playing Risk, and basically the stuff I'm used to doing in MY relationships. I mean we often hear about what Mr and Mrs A have been up to whether it be dinner or a movie or what have you, but being that Hippo goes more for the quick encounter style, the only real thing he can mention about the relationship IS the sex. It's just his "norm", and while that may seem odd to many of us, I'm sure he knows what risks may be involved, being that he's obviously (at least I'd say so) a fairly smart fellow, and has chosen a lifestyle that suits him.


That's just my two cents.

The difference between Hippoman's experiences and ours (you, I, Medaf, and your girlfriend's) is that many of those events are public ones. Dinner, card games, video games, things like that -- these are all things people can potentially relate directly to and/or participate in. They are not specifically between two people at one time, and are more social events than sensual, one-on-one occurrences.

I mean, yes, you and I do talk about our relationships (particularly when called upon to do so like in this thread), but we do not go into detail about the private things we do so much-- i.e. the sensual, personal experiences that involve and can only involve us and our significant others. I think there's a fundamental difference between Hippoman's actions and ours that you're neglecting to recognize.

Not to mention, Hippoman's justification for his constant blathering about his sexploitations is that "it's perfectly normal where he lives." The problem is, this isn't where he lives, and if the majority of people disagree with him, his actions are going to irk the general population of this forum. And if he's aware of that and just does it anyways, I don't see why that shouldn't constitute trolling. Trust me, I for one know just how much trouble saying things people don't like (despite being true) can get you into around these parts.
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Posted: Apr 14 2009, 02:13 PM
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My girlfriend and I do everything together smile.gif

Play games, watch anime, Cosplay, Draw anime/cartoon/still life and all that stuff biggrin.gif

We come to each other with all our problems and even how we feel with everything, I was very scared about upsetting her with how I felt with some things at first but she never gets mad at me and I could never be mad at her, so we're completley open with each other and trusting of each other smile.gif

By "Wearing the pants" you mena if there was sex or not?

Nah, we haven't had sex yet, but we've done some other stuff *Cough* lol!

Also, Cappy, if you aren't happy with your relationship and you beleive it "Sucks", then tell her how you feel and if she really cares she'll change to be better for you, and if not, then you can respectfully leave her.


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Well I've just never had a problem with it myself. I do realize MFGG is one of the few places on the internet where sexual exploits (minus ones involving animated women and ones own hand nyuck nyuck) are strange things. I mean I look at all the people around me in both my home town, and the city my University is in and it pretty much does seem the norm to be completely sexual most of the time whether I agree with it or not.

And I do realize there is a difference between what we do and say on here, and what he does and says on here, but I suppose the point I'm trying to make here is, if the sex is indeed all he is looking for in his relationships with women, does he really have much else to say when commenting on his relations with the opposite sex?


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QUOTE (shadowmanEXE @ Apr 14 2009, 12:13 PM)
By "Wearing the pants" you mena if there was sex or not?

no they literally mean wearing pants, skirts, dresses


i actually wouldn't mind trying out a skirt some time

but no way i'm going out in it

i'd have to have a really desperate girlfriend to do so


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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Apr 14 2009, 02:16 PM)
no they literally mean wearing pants, skirts, dresses



Damn, go figure XD I need to get my head out of the gutter :P


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QUOTE (shadowmanEXE @ Apr 14 2009, 12:18 PM)
Damn, go figure XD I need to get my head out of the gutter :P

actually i wouldn't be surprised if some of them did mean sex


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QUOTE (shadowmanEXE @ Apr 14 2009, 02:13 PM)
By "Wearing the pants" you mena if there was sex or not?

Nah, we haven't had sex yet, but we've done some other stuff *Cough* lol!

Also, Cappy, if you aren't happy with your relationship and you beleive it "Sucks", then tell her how you feel and if she really cares she'll change to be better for you, and if not, then you can respectfully leave her.

Wearing pants refers to who dominates the relationship in the archetypal male fashion.

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Well I've just never had a problem with it myself. I do realize MFGG is one of the few places on the internet where sexual exploits (minus ones involving animated women and ones own hand nyuck nyuck) are strange things. I mean I look at all the people around me in both my home town, and the city my University is in and it pretty much does seem the norm to be completely sexual most of the time whether I agree with it or not.

I'm not saying it's weird; that's not my main point, here. I'm saying it's forcing the happenings of the private sector of one's life into the public, social sector, not to mention glorifying something that is neither special nor exclusive to the individual. It would be like me posting every time I went to the restroom and playing it up as something amazing. Not only is it unnecessary and irrelevant to the public, social world, but it's also not really anything special or spectacular. You and I share experiences that are special, different, one-of-a-kind, etc. -- things that not everyone does/can do (not to be confused, though, with events that only we can do, thus making them private actions). We are sharing our experiences not just to brag/seek affirmation/troll/whatever Hippoman's intentions are, we share them because they are interesting and individualized -- they are not something anyone and everyone can/has done. It's, as I said, the difference between taking a dump, and say, talking about a vacation -- anyone can do the former, but the latter is special and holds people's interest because it is exclusive to the individual(s) and also an element of the public sector.

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And I do realize there is a difference between what we do and say on here, and what he does and says on here, but I suppose the point I'm trying to make here is, if the sex is indeed all he is looking for in his relationships with women, does he really have much else to say when commenting on his relations with the opposite sex?

That's not what I'm arguing against, though.

I'm criticizing his regular insulting of people with different morals than him, advising people who clearly want a long-term, deep relationship with someone to follow in his footsteps, and almost looking for chances to shamelessly plug his sexploits outside of threads such as these which explicitly ask about relationships and the like.

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Glako I was pointing out the obvious nature of your interest in brands and how they actually mean something to you. Also, I thought "New Era" were just words on the front lol etc. It was really the only retort I could think of at the time to your horrible, horrible mean post attacking my hair; which as people know is my weak point. The shoes were the only size 14s in the store, I think my mum bought them for me. I hope you get the relevance and reasoning for me pointing out the differences between us, not that I come out from apathy when I see them.

Mrs A, yeah this isn't going into detail at all. And I had a girlfriend for 2 years when I was in secondary school (17 - 18) which was normal and fun and everything you (as in you) would want in a relationship, based solely on your complaints about my lifestyle. It's not boasting to say "I've had sex", I don't go into terms of numbers or names and on this point would like to say how it's not really anything else than vaguely mentioning some experiences and it's on the internet so I doubt anyone takes offense from it. Love the abigous almost-insults in your posts by the way, they sort of mishmash apologetic diction with a feeling of superiority due to the derogatory comparisons and stuff, generally a nice read.

This is all in contrast to conversations I do have on the subject of sex with like-minded people (and oh god some of them are on MFGG) which are detailed and I wouldn't post. It's just unlucky that there are no other people who hold the same ideals and come from the same niche as me on the board, but since I feel it is normal for people my age I uphold the view and will defend myself if needed.

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In all the time I've been here, admittedly not that long, I haven't seen Hippoman post explicitly about his sex life. He didn't even do it in this thread, all he did was say that he had a more casual relationship style than was being talked about. This thread has been completely hijacked by you guys and your little crusade against him.

It's his choice in life. Nobody complains to this extent when Mrs. A and Mr. A go all googley eyed at eachother, or when people talk about smoking, taking drugs, pirating software/music/movies. Just because you don't like that he chooses to disclose details about his private life doesn't mean you should spend 2-3 pages of somebody else's topic condemning him for it.

Quite a few people in this thread have made remarks about their sexual situation with their long term partners, if you're going to put Hippoman down then you should get at them too.


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QUOTE (Kyori @ Apr 14 2009, 05:32 PM)
In all the time I've been here, admittedly not that long, I haven't seen Hippoman post explicitly about his sex life. He didn't even do it in this thread, all he did was say that he had a more casual relationship style than was being talked about. This thread has been completely hijacked by you guys and your little crusade against him.

It's his choice in life. Nobody complains to this extent when Mrs. A and Mr. A go all googley eyed at eachother, or when people talk about smoking, taking drugs, pirating software/music/movies. Just because you don't like that he chooses to disclose details about his private life doesn't mean you should spend 2-3 pages of somebody else's topic condemning him for it.

Quite a few people in this thread have made remarks about their sexual situation with their long term partners, if you're going to put Hippoman down then you should get at them too.

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QUOTE (Hippoman @ Apr 14 2009, 03:29 PM)
Mrs A, yeah this isn't going into detail at all. And I had a girlfriend for 2 years when I was in secondary school (17 - 18) which was normal and fun and everything you (as in you) would want in a relationship, based solely on your complaints about my lifestyle. It's not boasting to say "I've had sex", I don't go into terms of numbers or names and on this point would like to say how it's not really anything else than vaguely mentioning some experiences and it's on the internet so I doubt anyone takes offense from it. Love the abigous almost-insults in your posts by the way, they sort of mishmash apologetic diction with a feeling of superiority due to the derogatory comparisons and stuff, generally a nice read.

This is all in contrast to conversations I do have on the subject of sex with like-minded people (and oh god some of them are on MFGG) which are detailed and I wouldn't post. It's just unlucky that there are no other people who hold the same ideals and come from the same niche as me on the board, but since I feel it is normal for people my age I uphold the view and will defend myself if needed.

I'm not on my own PC right now and this post would be longer if I had time but this keyboard is a total pain to type on/

Whether explicit or not, they're still irrelevant personal experiences that really have no reason to be expressed in the public society. Also, your advice to people pursuing long-term, deep relationships tends to be detrimental to their cause and in the end nothing more than scathing, witty remarks to make yourself look edgy. Not to mention your often blatant attacks on people who believe differently from you seem a little unfair as you constantly assert that they are brainwashed and too religious -- all matters of opinion and not fact. I don't see it being really any better than "locker room talk."

And what I've said are not insults unless the truth can be seen as an insult in itself. All reproductive animals are capable of sexual exploits. I see no reason to take pride in them.

And just because you believe people should be a certain way at a certain point in life doesn't mean it's true or normal or fair. And I don't think it necessarily "unlucky;" I have plenty of beliefs I'd never voice on this forum because I know all it would do is hurt/anger people and otherwise accomplish nothing. There's no reason to be confrontational just for the sake of being confrontational.

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Nobody complains to this extent when Mrs. A and Mr. A go all googley eyed at each other, or when people talk about smoking, taking drugs, pirating software/music/movies. Just because you don't like that he chooses to disclose details about his private life doesn't mean you should spend 2-3 pages of somebody else's topic condemning him for it.

Because referring to someone as "love" or posting about one's significant other in a thread about significant others is "going all googly-eyed."

As for the latter examples you've provided, I wouldn't be okay with that, either. And if you are so content with him posting about his private life, then would you feel the same if everyone did it, and our forums were propagated with banal, drab threads like "Just got off the toilet and boy was that a big one!" And "I ate food for dinner tonight." Because, as I said, it's no the supposed profanity or what have you of Hippoman's experiences that bothers me -- it's the fact that such mundane, everyday experiences that anyone and everyone can engage in that really only hold relevant to the two people involved in said action really don't belong in public society.

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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Apr 14 2009, 05:36 PM)
often blatant attacks on people who believe differently from you ... matters of opinion and not fact.

Re-read that for me will you?


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QUOTE (Kyori @ Apr 14 2009, 05:42 PM)
Re-read that for me will you?

i.e. "You attack people because you beleive differently from them, though since both views are a matter of opinion, neither can be more right or wrong. Thus, such flaming is both unfair and uncalled for."

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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Apr 14 2009, 05:53 PM)
You attack people because you beleive differently from them, though since both views are a matter of opinion, neither can be more right or wrong. Thus, such flaming is both unfair and uncalled for.

You pretty much described what you've been doing these past few posts. Leave him alone, he made one post in this thread then you got at him for it up until now. What he posted was on-topic, what you're posting isn't at all. Please, just pretend you're the bigger person, or whatever makes you happy, and just let this thread die in peace.


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I like my advice; it's general, it works in real relationships and I've got it through experience not third party sources.

It's pretty obvious when I'm joking and when I'm being serious. Also the culture comments are a bit nonsensical since this started with me talking to someone who lives in England.

Therefore the concept of, what is socially accepted by the majority of peers is the norm. Deviating from the norm for no reason then attacking the norm is edgy, this is not what I do, I just defend my position.

Don't think I've ever called anyone brainwashed online or not but yeah I get you. There is no objectivity in this discussion so fail on your major points. Like I say the closest thing you get is what is socially normal and accepted by each generation and within that peers. If you can say that you're the majority we can have a moderately fair discussion but while I sit here without a portion of me thinking that my lifestyle and view of relationships in the casual form is wrong against someone who is fervantly voicing their own specific opinion against me I doubt anything will be accomplished.

The confrontation point makes no sense to me. Dumb it down to "edgy" because I don't see my self being confrontational "just to be" confrontational. In fact all I'm really doing is explaining stuff I've done. It's your choice to be confrontational by telling me it is irrelevant or unwated. In my opinion it is related to the topic at hand.


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Kyori's got a point -- if you all can't get what I'm saying now after I've repeated it very clearly so many times, chances are you're not going to get it if I continue debating it. And, yeah, we should probably get this topic back on track.

Hippoman, I've got nothing wrong with your moral set; I do, however, get irked when you find the need to post about the rightness of your beliefs in comparison to others' and also when you bring up your belief system in irrelevant circumstances -- and I know I'm not the only one that feels this way. Given, posting them in this thread was anything but irrelevant, and my complaints did not lie in your actions here and now. So I will leave it at that -- suppose there is no reason to further discuss past events.

I think I'm going to chock the rest of this up to culture shock and difference in the opinions of our societies as a whole and leave it at that. You cool with that too, bro?
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