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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:25 AM
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My 2¢
GENERIC MOD
  • Bad idea
  • Gives appearance of cowardice
  • Also appears to be shirking responsibility of making good calls
  • Leads to a breakdown in communication

Last Chance List
  • A fundamentally good idea
  • Needs a set of concrete rules for public viewing
  • Also needs a set date for reformed members to be taken off the list(in public if it already exists)

Punitive Measures
  • Be sure of them when you decide on them
  • Either say openly "If Mods do nothing for it, it's going unpunished..."
  • Or "There's XX days Mods can make up their minds in"
  • Option one will cause the least crying obviously but as long as you're consistent option two is entirely viable.

Complaint Topics
  • Until an actual rules violation, keep them open
  • Encourage people to pm or im the staff(as you've been doing :Db)
  • Don't be afraid to weigh-in as the Administration of MFGG(all mods, not just you)
  • (Also if you ask why the topic starter didn't just pm or im you the op will look silly)

CCC
  • Either make posts count or...
  • Open the CCC to public(Public Posting Place? ;B)
  • Feel free to ignore this list, the others above it are far more important.


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:26 AM
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I told him Phage stole my car keys.


and I ranted a little about the last chance list and plz unban Rath.

and a couple other things.


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  Posted: May 18 2009, 10:27 AM
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i deleted it

ah well it was mostly complements anyways
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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:29 AM
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and what is the purpose of this topic!

??????


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:29 AM
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no let's not do that in public


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:29 AM
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ERROR! One or more logical fallacies detected!
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I thought PM in this context stood for private message? Or was it personal message?


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:30 AM
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also you already made an equal topic that got deleted

why don't you learn


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Black Squirrel @ May 18 2009, 10:29 AM)
and what is the purpose of this topic!

??????

to see what issues people were impassioned about enough to bring up

since none of them are going to effect any changes, what's the harm in sharing if you feel like it?

(also before anyone asks, I'm a lazy person. I'd much rather cast out a question and let those interested bite. I'm not tracking down screennames simply so I can ask for a pm. It's much less bothersome to everyone if interested parties simply post here, and uninterested parties simply overlook this one little topic.)

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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE (MechaBowser @ May 18 2009, 10:30 AM)
also you already made an equal topic that got deleted

why don't you learn

Er, what? My last topic amounted to "I don't care I'm complaining." This is more along the lines of genuine curiosity as to what other people saw as problems.

Why don't you have better reading comprehension?


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:35 AM
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Okayy I reread my PM.

I whined about

last chance list
permabanning for minor offenses :V
CCC system needing some changes.

And phage stealing car keys.


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:42 AM
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I talked about sprite compo rules


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:42 AM
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imo the issue with the last chance list with small offenses should be something like

idk

iirc when you're on the last chance list you get taken off after a certain amount of time if you're on good behaviour? Couldn't you do something like.. if they make any small offenses, this amount of time gets extended or something? Of course, this means they could ninja their way around it by just making small offenses and not caring about the time extensions, I guess, but I'm sure the administration could leave it to their better judgement to just drop them if their small bans stack up (While they're on the last chance list, that is)

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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (Promenade @ May 18 2009, 10:42 AM)
imo the issue with the last chance list with small offenses should be something like

idk

iirc when you're on the last chance list you get taken off after a certain amount of time if you're on good behaviour? Couldn't you do something like.. if they make any small offenses, this amount of time gets extended or something? Of course, this means they could ninja their way around it by just making small offenses and not caring about the time extensions, I guess, but I'm sure the administration could leave it to their better judgement to just drop them if their small bans stack up (While they're on the last chance list, that is)

An interesting idea, but that seems rather labor-intensive and highly dependent on communication within The Team.


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (Zash @ May 18 2009, 09:45 AM)
An interesting idea, but that seems rather labor-intensive and highly dependent on communication within The Team.

COMMUNICATION IS BAD?!


I almost put communism...


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:55 AM
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i didn't have any input to give

i try deal with the problems i have by myself :x


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE (Raie @ May 18 2009, 10:53 AM)
COMMUNICATION IS BAD?!


I almost put communism...

No, but it's impractical to have to check in and wait on approval if you're unsure on something, especially if you're waiting for someone several timezones away.


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Posted: May 18 2009, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE (Zash @ May 18 2009, 05:33 PM)
Er, what? My last topic amounted to "I don't care I'm complaining." This is more along the lines of genuine curiosity as to what other people saw as problems.

it's the same concept

complaining complaining wah wah wah

this topic is just a complaint topic in disguise


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Posted: May 18 2009, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (MechaBowser @ May 18 2009, 10:59 AM)
it's the same concept

complaining complaining wah wah wah

this topic is just a complaint topic in disguise

Actually, Mr. Cynicism it's simply a thread asking for what others thought. I made this because I am a curious individual and I wanted to see what others thought.

Would you mind pming me any further misgivings? I'd like to actually keep this thread on its rails(in the ccc no less, oh the novelty).


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Posted: May 18 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE (Zash @ May 18 2009, 04:31 PM)
to see what issues people were impassioned about enough to bring up

since none of them are going to effect any changes, what's the harm in sharing if you feel like it?

(also before anyone asks, I'm a lazy person. I'd much rather cast out a question and let those interested bite. I'm not tracking down screennames simply so I can ask for a pm. It's much less bothersome to everyone if interested parties simply post here, and uninterested parties simply overlook this one little topic.)

well I uh

released everything but the personal stuff and the duplicate issues


and things that were covered in other points or in the case of GenMod, dealt with almost straight away



personal stuff is surprisingly fun and there's some interesting trends




either way there's not a huge amount of point pointing out problems in a system that's due to be replaced shortly with a better one, nor is there a point in continuing a locked topic in the hopes of finding extra info that isn't really there, nor is it really wise to keep trying things like this after only recently coming back from a permaban.

I have always and still am open for ideas submitted to me outside of these forums. That Quackers test was pretty much one of the first times ever that MFGG has come to me with specific member problems. It's not my fault there was only a very small handful of people who cared. If less than 15 people raise a point it clearly says to me that perhaps that point isn't so "big" after all... and what's that? Why yes, yes I am acting on several points that only seem to effect one or two people. How nice for a forum of this size. But if you wanted better results more people should have PMed that lovely duck and maybe then the mod team would have changed their minds


emphasis on this "team" bit here before more false info is thrown about stating I was the only one who did anything. In fact, this new system that's coming through wasn't even thought up by me for the most part (aside from "we need a new system")





essentially it's very nice that you want to discuss this but it was locked because some people cannot control themselves and get very upset if things don't go their way. This just tempts the same thing as this morning's fun topic did and I don't want Char or SGG or whoever to have to deal with mess related to my posting actions. And likewise, I don't want to deal with the past anymore either.


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