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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:14 AM
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'daw shucks he knew I was out to get him!

I better watch out when the trial list roles back around!



Next question while I'm not reading the whole topic, what's the short answer on why we even have a test trial member? 'zat thing still around?

also um...
@BS: See, here's the thing, Alotta folks are weary to trust you and well, to put it bluntly you really shouldn't leave your actions up to our own imagination. The guy everyone thought went over-the-line yesterday with his spooky conspiracy plan to eliminate members he doesn't like JUST SO HAPPENS to become a higher form of admin when another member is made one.


DOES THIS REALLY SEEM SO UNREASONABLE FOR THIS TO RAISE CONCERN?


btw, the pointing the finger at us thing, really ain't very nice considering how many perfectly fine and innocent members were on the trial list, it seems more like you're all to quickly trying to lure the blame off.

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you're quickly doing more harm than good for your name. :V
make one simple move at a time and stick with it.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:15 AM
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Subject matter aside I don't think half of you are adhering to some of the rules in this topic.

Call yourselves adults all you want but unless you're going to discuss something civilly or reserve judgment until you know the truth, I don't think you should be breaking those rules.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:17 AM
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I think BS should take a break from his position.

he's got MFGG on his back and some members are a bit vicious about it!

and though he tries to hide it, it's pretty obvious his judgments are being affected by trying to defend himself from all the complaints that have been around.

I just think he needs to take a little break before things get needlessly worse off for him and mfgg


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:19 AM
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QUOTE (Mecha @ Jun 15 2009, 04:14 AM)
make one simple move at a time and stick with it.

And tell people before you do it, too, please.

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  Subject matter aside I don't think half of you are adhering to some of the rules in this topic.

Call yourselves adults all you want but unless you're going to discuss something civilly or reserve judgment until you know the truth, I don't think you should be breaking those rules.

DJ asked BS to post a formal and heart-felt apology to MFGG and also one to RII, since both are in order.

Instead, we get a sarcastic, scathing post that hardly functions as a real apology -- not uncommon from BS -- and a bunch of self-victimization.

If he can't even man up and be mature enough to owe up for what he has done wrong, then as far as I'm concerned I don't think anyone should be obligated to treat him like an adult.

Adults don't shirk responsibilities, beat around the bush, self-victimize, and lash out at people for their own mistakes. I'm with everyone else in the sense that I don't think BS is an evil person, but he's made some mistakes, and he can't just ignore them like he has done in the past.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:21 AM
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I just think it's a bit of a witch-hunt =P People pointing fingers without knowing all the facts, of which we're probably all guilty, so i'm just gonna reserve judgment until I know all the facts.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:22 AM
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QUOTE (Kritter @ Jun 15 2009, 04:21 AM)
I just think it's a bit of a witch-hunt =P People pointing fingers without knowing all the facts, of which we're probably all guilty, so i'm just gonna reserve judgment until I know all the facts.

I'm not pointing for anything I haven't seen with my own eyes; don't lump all the people in this thread together.

Blanket statements get you nowhere.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:23 AM
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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Jun 15 2009, 04:22 AM)
I'm not pointing for anything I haven't seen with my own eyes; don't lump all the people in this thread together.

Blanket statements get you nowhere.

Whatever you say =P


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  Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:25 AM
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The other issue is that we have Techokami, who also made a mistake, believing that the root admin was apparently "okay to use," despite a topic made by RII in the mod forum about it, and it being extremely evident after all the drama of the PM scandal.


Unless there's something extremely bogus going on, judging by my knowledge of the system, and the words of the ****ing board owner, this is pretty much what's happening.



Although I would like to desist with my posts now until RII can give us an update, based on his findings.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE (Black Squirrel @ Jun 15 2009, 08:46 AM)
Hey kids lets play

SPOT THE LIES

I didn't invent Invision Power Board. Invision Power Board was invented by what is now known as Invision Power Services Inc. IPB has many default options and the root admins group is one of them!

The root admin thing was not my idea at all - following that ACCOUNT THAT DISAPPEARED, Techokami put me in the root admins group so as to see if the account's deletion had been logged. It hadn't, which means a glitch has been discovered and steps can be taken to like, fix it. That group had to be re-made manually, which is something I probably couldn't do either, so perhaps some more research is needed before baseless accusations!

This is a prime example of what is wrong with this community - instantly jumping on the idea that I would "bump myself up for personal gain". That is awful, and quite frankly, you should feel ashamed that this is the first thing you come to when you see something like that. I find it insulting that people think that this is how I would behave at a time like this. I can understand people not liking me for whatever reason but I'm not that low, or stupid, and it just goes to show that nobody listens to a damned word I said about the whole mods and admins votes are equal if you think it would have made a difference to the way this forum is run.

Coincidentally I thought the reason why there were no root admins was because of Yoshiman's PM stuffs, Techokami assured me otherwise and said it dated back to when Kritter deleted himself, and I believed him because he's often in the know with these things and has been around longer than me. That is not a crime, it is a simple mistake.

I can't wait to hear what I've done next!

I'm happy as long as there are 2 people in charge. It stops things getting out of hand, because they have another person to bounce ideas off of before they put them into action.

Also, I'm guessing BS being root admin is just for technical reasons, not for the title or any alleged seniority from it. Although I'm guessing it would make a lot of people happy if Guinea was made root admin too.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:26 AM
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QUOTE (DJ Yoshiman @ Jun 15 2009, 04:25 AM)
Although I would like to desist with my posts now until RII can give us an update, based on his findings.

Seconded.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:26 AM
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QUOTE (Kyori @ Jun 15 2009, 01:25 AM)
I'm happy as long as there are 2 people in charge. It stops things getting out of hand, because they have another person to bounce ideas off of before they put them into action.

Also, I'm guessing BS being root admin is just for technical reasons, not for the title or any alleged seniority from it. Although I'm guessing it would make a lot of people happy if Guinea was made root admin too.

read the thread kyori, as well as my recent post.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:27 AM
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In other words... reserving judgment until you know the facts! Where've I heard that before...


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:28 AM
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QUOTE (Kritter @ Jun 15 2009, 04:27 AM)
In other words... reserving judgment until you know the facts! Where've I heard that before...

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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE (Mrs. Aforcer @ Jun 15 2009, 04:28 AM)
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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE (Kritter @ Jun 15 2009, 04:27 AM)
In other words... reserving judgment until you know the facts! Where've I heard that before...

Really it seems more like they're simply not posting since they have nothing else relevant to the topic. They've both already expressed judgment, so your posts are more or less boiling down to "Hey guys look at how non-accusatory I am!!"


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:30 AM
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QUOTE (Kritter @ Jun 15 2009, 01:27 AM)
In other words... reserving judgment until you know the facts! Where've I heard that before...

the facts are all here, at least some of them, and the main ones at that:

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root admin has alot of access and apparently power, which rii doesn't want getting used like it did in yoshiman's tenure, so root admin is a taboo admin group
hence us flipping out of bs being root


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:32 AM
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It's all the same to me. How about I just word it "everyone cool off"


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:34 AM
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QUOTE (Guinea @ Jun 15 2009, 07:06 PM)
And admittedly it was a really foolish move at this time. >_>
Regardless of how foolish it was, it wasn't evil, so yeah. Can we live with it? I can.

I certainly can live with it.


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Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:34 AM
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QUOTE (Kritter @ Jun 15 2009, 04:32 AM)
It's all the same to me. How about I just word it "everyone cool off"

that'll work just fine so long as you don't tell people saying that they're going to cool off to go and cool off like you already told them to do.

it's basic psychology, you're just going to rile them back up if you suddenly strike a confrontational pose


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  Posted: Jun 15 2009, 04:37 AM
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Essentially, I'm just wanting Techokami to apologize for allowing a previous member-personal-conflict-exploit system to be risen again (root admin group type), and for BS to legitimately apologize for allowing himself to be root admin - both mistakes that could have been avoided by communicating with RII, or even having the knowledge that such a system created intense conflict and drama previously - just like right now, again.


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