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> Does anyone plan on becoming a Manga Artist?
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Posted: Jul 7 2009, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE (BubbleMan @ Jul 7 2009, 11:29 PM)
And yet, as soon as you see it, you will know right away that it's Manga, not something different. If it was original, the style wouldn't be classified so easily, or would just be classified under the author's name or the title of the work or something.

Yeah, pretty much.

i.e. "Le Chevalier D'eon". It doesn't take place in Japan, the style is not manga-ish, and the story is chilling and more novelish than "lol kawaii desu" or "manly manly beat the bad guys".

but Kiriko Yumeji and Tou Ubukata (Artist/Story Writer respectively) are native Japanese, and their work is classified as authentic Japanese manga. They can break out of their countries restraints, and create a highly celebrated and critically acclaimed experience.

So there's no reason you should set your sites on creating work set within boundaries.


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Posted: Jul 8 2009, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE (Comrade Kesha @ Jul 7 2009, 09:28 PM)
the deal about originality is, if someone else is already doing it, it's not original.

But thats why everyone has there own way of drawing the manga style different, or at least most people.


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Posted: Jul 8 2009, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE (JetSetRaďn @ Jul 7 2009, 11:54 PM)
Yeah, pretty much.

i.e. "Le Chevalier D'eon". It doesn't take place in Japan, the style is not manga-ish, and the story is chilling and more novelish than "lol kawaii desu" or "manly manly beat the bad guys".

but Kiriko Yumeji and Tou Ubukata (Artist/Story Writer respectively) are native Japanese, and their work is classified as authentic Japanese manga. They can break out of their countries restraints, and create a highly celebrated and critically acclaimed experience.

So there's no reason you should set your sites on creating work set within boundaries.

I love Le Chevalier D'eon...!


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Posted: Jul 8 2009, 10:24 AM
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My favorite thing about anime and manga is that it inspires others not to be original with their artistic styles.
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Posted: Jul 8 2009, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (kremling @ Jul 8 2009, 09:36 AM)
But thats why everyone has there own way of drawing the manga style different, or at least most people.

Here's the deal though, in the proffessional (and oftentimes, internet) world, when you try to do something different with a manga style, they will not see "Kremling's artstyle," they will see "another manga style."

Now I have seen some people take the manga style in a new direction, but these people do not claim to be "manga artists" at all. Instead, they don't label themselves, which releases that restriction.

However, people like that are rare, and normally they just lean on the manga style. Do not do this. Create your own style. It'll take a while, but beleive me, it is well worth it. When you create your own style, people will look at it and say "That's Kremling's style." Now, they may say it "looks kinda like" other styles, but if you make your own, chances are they will not mistake it for someone else's, and when you have achieved this, you've got your original art style, one you call your own, one that tells the reader that you are the artist behind the comic.

If you try to become a "manga artist" you make it a hundred times harder to achieve this because of the stigmas that follow it. The most marketable kind of "manga" art is the kind you can't tell is manga.

If you're dead set on using manga influences, at least change it up. I know one artist who does a good job of using a simi-manga style by hiding it behind heavy minimal tones and a classic European motif, reminiscent of illustrations found in some versions of "A Series of Unfortunate Events." When I first saw this comic, I didn't think "manga" and that's what you will have to acheive if you want your manga inspired art to be marketable.

I still say you should start off with your own style, but if you won't listen to that, at least try and mix it up into something not-so-manga.


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Posted: Jul 8 2009, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 8 2009, 10:24 AM)
My favorite thing about anime and manga is that it inspires others not to be original with their artistic styles.

It's apparently impossible to be original nowadays because ****ing EVERYONE classifies every goddamn style as anime bull**** even when it is clearly not

JJBA doesn't have ****ing WATERY EYES DESU and it is a manga so it is manga style hurrrr durrrp





if you share any similiarities with ANY type of japanese bull**** hello you are anime enjoy this label forever


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QUOTE (Nystre @ Jul 8 2009, 11:21 AM)
It's apparently impossible to be original nowadays because ****ing EVERYONE classifies every goddamn style as anime bull**** even when it is clearly not

No, usually what people classify as "anime bull****" is exactly that. I am just gonna guess you draw in that style?!
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Posted: Jul 8 2009, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 8 2009, 11:23 AM)
No, usually what people classify as "anime bull****" is exactly that. I am just gonna guess you draw in that style?!

no i hate drawing


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QUOTE (Nystre @ Jul 8 2009, 11:21 AM)
It's apparently impossible to be original nowadays because ****ing EVERYONE classifies every goddamn style as anime bull**** even when it is clearly not

JJBA doesn't have ****ing WATERY EYES DESU and it is a manga so it is manga style hurrrr durrrp





if you share any similiarities with ANY type of japanese bull**** hello you are anime enjoy this label forever

I know. It's not fair, but that's just how it is. nope.gif


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QUOTE (Nystre @ Jul 8 2009, 11:25 AM)
no i hate drawing

Oh okay, I figured you were offended or something since that seemed to be the tone.
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Posted: Jul 8 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (Admiral Delmore @ Jul 8 2009, 11:25 AM)
Oh okay, I figured you were offended or something since that seemed to be the tone.

nah I don't draw enough to have any sort of style classification anyway


there are a lot of artists I enjoy with anime styles though (purplekecleon comes to mind)


tbh I feel there is nothing wrong with being unoriginal with your style as long as it is not a ****ty style to begin with (in before BUT ANIME IS A ****TY STYLE TO BEGIN WITH LOL I AM POPULAR ON INTERNET)


if people want to draw anime great good for them


just don't suck at it


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not all anime has boring ass styles : (

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I find photorealism more boring than anime anyway


"oh cool you're a manual camera and you spent days doing this, uhhh, I'll do it with a click of a button now!"

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I remember back when I was 13 and wanted to draw "anime."

Now I just silly doodles in MS Paint whenever I fancy.
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I was unaware that if you wanted to become a well-known manga artist you had to not be a manga artist...


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I don't think they're in ill mind wanting to become a manga artist, but wanting to become one in Japan is kind of risky because you will probably end up making less :I

Play it safe and just self-publish them in America or something like Ainsworth did. No one cares if it's not "authentic wapanese"


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Like I said, just try and hook up a deal with Darkhorse or something.
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QUOTE (Paji @ Jul 8 2009, 12:00 PM)
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